Dave-G Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Some will think it was his own fault for being old, white and probably conservative thinking enough to speak his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62587263 They have arrested someone for it. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Now there's a surprise!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 He more than likely disrespected the perp with his white privilege Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, loriusgarrulus said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-62587263 They have arrested someone for it. 👍🏻 This is the photo the POLICE issued of a suspect they were looking for, it is reported he was seen running away from the scene. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/man-with-knife-seen-running-away-after-fatal-stabbing-of-irishman-87-on-his-mobility-scooter-in-london-41919288.html Edited August 18, 2022 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Its a very sad business. I read somewhere (and it is something similar is repeated here https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1656629/last-moments-man-mobility-scooter-stabbed) that the suspect was a serial and well known shoplifter from the store outside which the elderly victim was busking. If that is so this is a good example of why we should not be tolerating these 'minor' crimes like shoplifting which is now rarely followed up unless of very high value - small crimes often lead on to more serious ones. I know our local Morrisons (claim they) struggle to get support to prosecute minor low value shoplifting - even if it is a regular thing. The criminals just know they will get away with it - and so carry on. The suggestion here is that the elderly victim raised quite significant money (for charity apparently) through his busking and the attacker - as a regular petty criminal - was after the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Its a very sad business. I read somewhere (and it is something similar is repeated here https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1656629/last-moments-man-mobility-scooter-stabbed) that the suspect was a serial and well known shoplifter from the store outside which the elderly victim was busking. If that is so this is a good example of why we should not be tolerating these 'minor' crimes like shoplifting which is now rarely followed up unless of very high value - small crimes often lead on to more serious ones. I know our local Morrisons (claim they) struggle to get support to prosecute minor low value shoplifting - even if it is a regular thing. The criminals just know they will get away with it - and so carry on. The suggestion here is that the elderly victim raised quite significant money (for charity apparently) through his busking and the attacker - as a regular petty criminal - was after the money. Unfortunately this is more compounded by the retail industry. Most companies will not send their employees to court as witnesses, as it costs them more in wages than the item stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rem260 said: Unfortunately this is more compounded by the retail industry. Most companies will not send their employees to court as witnesses, as it costs them more in wages than the item stolen. That may be so. The bit you have highlighted above could reflect that in that they may be expecting (in my view not unreasonably) the 'authorities' to 'support' prosecution. The real problem is that where people know they can get away with minor crime without any action being taken, the temptation to go that bit further (and pinch a collectors takings for the example here) may apply and lead to serious consequences (as it seems may have happened here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: That may be so. The bit you have highlighted above could reflect that in that they may be expecting (in my view not unreasonably) the 'authorities' to 'support' prosecution. The real problem is that where people know they can get away with minor crime without any action being taken, the temptation to go that bit further (and pinch a collectors takings for the example here) may apply and lead to serious consequences (as it seems may have happened here). Unfortunately in the wider context you are right. As there are too many people jumping to the defence of those who commit petty crime. The current excuse for shop theft is feeding thier families due to the fuel crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Too much gang crime in London with knifes and guns , We blow the bridges up build a wall and make it like Escape from New York with Kurt Russell as Snake Pliscon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Its a very sad business. I read somewhere (and it is something similar is repeated here https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1656629/last-moments-man-mobility-scooter-stabbed) that the suspect was a serial and well known shoplifter from the store outside which the elderly victim was busking. If that is so this is a good example of why we should not be tolerating these 'minor' crimes like shoplifting which is now rarely followed up unless of very high value - small crimes often lead on to more serious ones. I know our local Morrisons (claim they) struggle to get support to prosecute minor low value shoplifting - even if it is a regular thing. The criminals just know they will get away with it - and so carry on. The suggestion here is that the elderly victim raised quite significant money (for charity apparently) through his busking and the attacker - as a regular petty criminal - was after the money. I sat on the City Centre partnership board for Central Milton Keynes. They would not bother with shoplifters, other than to expel them from the stores as the police would not arrest and prosecute. They apparently have more important things to do. The police are under funded and their remit is ever growing who do you think is responsible for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 minute ago, oowee said: who do you think is responsible for that? I don't want to hijack this thread about a very sad death - and turn it into a political thread. Police funding is between the Police (at Chief Constable level), the Home Office (or in London the Mayor's Office I believe) and the Treasury. If Chief Constables are unable to do their jobs through lack of funds - they need to sort it out with their Home Office/Mayors Office bosses - and if they get nowhere resign and let someone who can do the job take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 The police should have stopped and searched him when he was a shoplifting suspect. Oh no, of course they can't because that would have been racial profiling. The liberals have a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 It's no good talking about the death sentence. Juries today are too weak to find a person guilty, even if they are totally convinced he is, if they know he will get a death sentence They don't have the personal strength of character. It's a recognised fact that juries are getting weaker and many jurors won't find anybody guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Vince Green said: It's no good talking about the death sentence. Juries today are too weak to find a person guilty, even if they are totally convinced he is, if they know he will get a death sentence They don't have the personal strength of character. It's a recognised fact that juries are getting weaker and many jurors won't find anybody guilty Juries ? my wife watches a lot of the police interceptor programmes and the sentences are laughable the judges are out of touch with todays world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, amateur said: The police should have stopped and searched him when he was a shoplifting suspect. Oh no, of course they can't because that would have been racial profiling. The liberals have a lot to answer for. If found guilty, I dont think he will enjoy being locked up...... probably sting a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I read something years ago that if you put too many rats in a cage together then they start eating each other. That’s what’s happening with us - too many people in the Country! The roads are overrun with traffic.The demand on the NHS and doctors surgeries and dentists is such that they just can’t cope. Try ringing banks,and service companies etc, your number xxx in the queue and very lucky to eventually speak to anyone let alone get anything done. No one has the balls to sort it out and I’m afraid it’s only going to get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I wonder why the police are not confirming if the man who's picture was circulated is the man they have arrested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Rem260 said: I wonder why the police are not confirming if the man who's picture was circulated is the man they have arrested. I can’t think why they would, even if it was or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 18 hours ago, fern01 said: I don't think so. We have been brainwashed by political correctness and brow beaten into fear of being called a racist. A good back up is the terrorism act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Bigbob said: Juries ? my wife watches a lot of the police interceptor programmes and the sentences are laughable the judges are out of touch with todays world Ir's possible that the sentencing parameters are continually weakened behind the scenes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Rem260 said: I wonder why the police are not confirming if the man who's picture was circulated is the man they have arrested. Because to do that is jeopardising his 'right' to a fair trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Westley said: Because to do that is jeopardising his 'right' to a fair trial a report on the radio this evening said police said the arrest was made after they put out video image of the suspect and with help from the public he was found.so seems quite conclusive.as for fair trial these animals should get the same degree of fairness as his victim got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, bostonmick said: a report on the radio this evening said police said the arrest was made after they put out video image of the suspect and with help from the public he was found.so seems quite conclusive.as for fair trial these animals should get the same degree of fairness as his victim got Ah, but you have overlooked the trauma he suffered to get to this Country in the first place and then being forced to reside in a single room, whilst awaiting 'Social Housing'. Of course he will be entitled to legal aid and will probably be bailed before the Bobbies have finished the paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Westley said: Ah, but you have overlooked the trauma he suffered to get to this Country in the first place and then being forced to reside in a single room, whilst awaiting 'Social Housing'. Of course he will be entitled to legal aid and will probably be bailed before the Bobbies have finished the no doubt every trick in the book will be dragged out by his publicly funded barrister. racism oppressing of his ancestors. his mental health suffered due to covid the cost of living crisis pushing up the street price of weed and cocaine. oh yes many excuses that our failed justice system will eagerly accept as valid.his brief will no doubt plead him not guilty knowing full well that is a lie but we the gullible tax payer will just foot the bill without a whimper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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