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Read something today that they were going to penalize ( fine ) people $2,500 if they said something deraggatory against Paypal. How they would get it off someone who didn't have it, who knows.

Apparently, thousands of users have closed their account, causing them to retract this threat.

I'm sure I read that e-bay owns Paypal.

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28 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

 

Please forgive my ignorance but what's the problem?

 

This. What’s the issue exactly?

Ok EBay will try to make you use PayPal but you don’t have to.

Any other retailer who insists on them is usually a small business who doesn’t know better or probably dodgy. Either way take your business elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, 30-6 said:

Read something today that they were going to penalize ( fine ) people $2,500 if they said something deraggatory against Paypal. How they would get it off someone who didn't have it, who knows.

Apparently, thousands of users have closed their account, causing them to retract this threat.

I'm sure I read that e-bay owns Paypal.

GB News are all over it.

Toby Young of the Free Speech Union has been on talking about it for the last few days.

 

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12 hours ago, udderlyoffroad said:

This. What’s the issue exactly?

Ok EBay will try to make you use PayPal but you don’t have to.

Any other retailer who insists on them is usually a small business who doesn’t know better or probably dodgy. Either way take your business elsewhere.

But why is it detrimental to me?

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I have used it with no problems for years and will continue to do so.
Their intention not to have customers/account holders who propagate false information, racist, non inclusive , otherwise radical, violent views, etc. etc,  is their business.
They are not talking about me, or about 99% of their customers.

It is noted that they have withdrawn this addition to their Terms and Conditions.

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13 hours ago, 30-6 said:

Read something today that they were going to penalize ( fine ) people $2,500 if they said something deraggatory against Paypal. How they would get it off someone who didn't have it, who knows.

Apparently, thousands of users have closed their account, causing them to retract this threat.

I'm sure I read that e-bay owns Paypal.

Also 'cancelling' (in both the normal and modern sense of the word) the accounts of organisations who opinions the disagreed with. Tony Young, et al.

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1 hour ago, Cranfield said:

Their intention not to have customers/account holders who propagate false information, racist, non inclusive , otherwise radical, violent views, etc. etc,  is their business.
They are not talking about me, or about 99% of their customers.

Leaving aside for a minute that if a bank were to behave in such a manner, it would be totally illegal...

As for you not being in the 1%....er, you go shooting don't you?  You kill things for fun, you monster.  Some Californian college-grad's idea of what is acceptable may not be yours.

1 hour ago, harrycatcat1 said:

But why is it detrimental to me?

Apologies if my post came off as confrontational, wasn't meant to be.

That said, there's no reason to use paypal, and many reasons not to, so I'd steer clear.

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I've been using PayPal since about 2005, and I'm certain it's safer and more secure than entering card details online to some firm selling roofing felt or cheap jeans.

Many proper retailers, both here and abroad, accept PayPal, and the threat of reporting a certain dodgy German car parts seller to Paypal rapidly got their attention and got me what I'd ordered.

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1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said:

Leaving aside for a minute that if a bank were to behave in such a manner, it would be totally illegal...

As for you not being in the 1%....er, you go shooting don't you?  You kill things for fun, you monster.  Some Californian college-grad's idea of what is acceptable may not be yours.

Apologies if my post came off as confrontational, wasn't meant to be.

That said, there's no reason to use paypal, and many reasons not to, so I'd steer clear.

Please explain to me how anyone knows I go shooting, or who I am personally, my address, or other personal details.
It may be hard for you to believe , but my name is not Cranfield, nor any variation of that name.
I will leave you to make your decisions and ( as I am a grown man), I will make mine.

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4 minutes ago, Cranfield said:

Please explain to me how anyone knows I go shooting, or who I am personally, my address, or other personal details.

I'd suggest OSINT might be worth a google.  Few good introduction videos on YouTube. Pretty scary stuff.

Yes, it's unlikely somebody just buying the odd purchase through eBay using Paypal would be targeted like this, but frankly that's not the point.  The fact is Paypal  considered such a policy, and it appears to have been treated seriously by senior management. Rather than swiftly confined to the bin like it should've been.  The "I'm alright, Jack, this won't affect me" attitude is, IMHO, way too laissez-faire.

The reality is, "Big Tech" has become the 'town square', certainly for a lot of people, and it is pretty damn censorious with it.

14 minutes ago, Cranfield said:

It may be hard for you to believe , but my name is not Cranfield, nor any variation of that name.

The thing that's hard for me to believe is that people use any variation of their real name on here at all.

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There are so many other alternatives to Paypal these days there is no need to use them or tacitly support their woke nonsense.

I have supported the Free Speech Union for some time and Paypal's unilateral highhanded cancellation of the FSU accounts based on someone at Paypal's own assessment of the rights and wrongs of FSU's positioning on covid (since proven correct) is indicative of where we are heading and if more people cancelled their accounts we might at least slow the decline in our freedoms.

 

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