Here comes Boris

[TIGHTCHOKE]

I thought he had been on holiday in the Dominican republic.

[Weihrauch17]

21 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I thought he had been on holiday in the Dominican republic.

He has been whilst Parliament is sitting demonstrating total contempt for his constituents. 

[Good shot?]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Yes , lets forget the non story that was partgate.
The good thing about Boris , is he will have learned from his mistakes, come back rested and refreshed, and ready to tackle the job at hand.

He had a tough time with covid , pregnancies, and a tirade of daily abuse and slander from the media, and he was STILL  the best PM weve had since Ive been around.

Or would you prefer Starmer ?

Please don't misinterpret my post, the only party I would want in is the  Conservatives even though they are a shambles currently.

I am merely highlighting the difficulties any leader would encounter and saying that Boris would have to stand up to a lot of background jostling and also change his stance, and show it on the points I have raised.  

[TIGHTCHOKE]

5 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

He has been whilst Parliament is sitting demonstrating total contempt for his constituents. 

I thought he may be licking his wounds.

[12gauge82]

What has been shown since the Cons pushed Boris out and now Liz Truss is there is an element within the party that is never going to allow the electorate to get what they voted for. 

On that basis I'm voting reform or reclaim at the next election, I see no other sensible alternative. 

[old'un]

13 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

What has been shown since the Cons pushed Boris out and now Liz Truss is there is an element within the party that is never going to allow the electorate to get what they voted for. 

On that basis I'm voting reform or reclaim at the next election, I see no other sensible alternative. 

Monster Raving Loony Party??

[12gauge82]

Just now, old'un said:

Monster Raving Loony Party??

😂👍

[Mice!]

38 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

He has been whilst Parliament is sitting demonstrating total contempt for his constituents. 

Funny, are all MPs at the total beck and call of the electorate?

Funny things emails, they go anywhere you know.

Plus I'm not sure having the ex PM sat behind Truss would have helped matters, he was probably told to clear for a while.

[oowee]

25 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

What has been shown since the Cons pushed Boris out and now Liz Truss is there is an element within the party that is never going to allow the electorate to get what they voted for. 

On that basis I'm voting reform or reclaim at the next election, I see no other sensible alternative. 

That's been there since Brexit. It's not that they wont allow the electorate to get what they voted for more that the promise to the electorate is undeliverable. 

Unfortunately some people never learn and others are deaf.

[Weihrauch17]

30 minutes ago, Mice! said:

Funny, are all MPs at the total beck and call of the electorate?

Funny things emails, they go anywhere you know.

Plus I'm not sure having the ex PM sat behind Truss would have helped matters, he was probably told to clear for a while.

Total beck and call!!  He has been on permanent holiday since he resigned (other than finding time to deliver highly lucrative speeches whilst being paid by the taxpayer to be an MP) think this is his third or fourth.  If he doesn't want to do the job he should resign.  Anyone in the real world doing what he has been doing recently would have been sacked.  

Edited October 21, 2022 by Weihrauch17

[12gauge82]

27 minutes ago, oowee said:

That's been there since Brexit. It's not that they wont allow the electorate to get what they voted for more that the promise to the electorate is undeliverable. 

Unfortunately some people never learn and others are deaf.

The problem seems to me that politics for the average person is no longer about the left or right. You've got labour on the left who are primarily concerned about those on benefits, migrants and other left agendas. Then there's the cons who stand for the super rich while also pushing globalist agenda's that align with some leftist policy. There's no main stream party that stands for the working person, or the average man. The whole political system needs a massive shake up and that much needed change will never come from Labour or the Conservatives, they will tell us what we want to hear and carry on delivering nothing. 

[Mice!]

9 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Total beck and call!!  He has been on permanent holiday since he resigned I think this is his third or fourth.  If he doesn't want to do the job he should resign.  Anyone in the real world doing what he has been doing recently would have been sacked.  

They aren't in the real world,  their politicians 😅😅

He'll be doing what the party tells him, hopefully he's been making a lot of phone calls today. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, I see Mr Starmer has made a point that exiting PM Truss does not receive the £118,000 pension on leaving no 10, not bad for a few months of making a real mess of the economy , although the energy problem does strike a chord with the war in ukraine and Putin getting some come back against many countries including UK putting a hold on Russian money and the rich oligarch ,

[oowee]

14 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, I see Mr Starmer has made a point that exiting PM Truss does not receive the £118,000 pension on leaving no 10, not bad for a few months of making a real mess of the economy , although the energy problem does strike a chord with the war in ukraine and Putin getting some come back against many countries including UK putting a hold on Russian money and the rich oligarch ,

? Pension no. Expenses going forward? 

20 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

The problem seems to me that politics for the average person is no longer about the left or right. You've got labour on the left who are primarily concerned about those on benefits, migrants and other left agendas. Then there's the cons who stand for the super rich while also pushing globalist agenda's that align with some leftist policy. There's no main stream party that stands for the working person, or the average man. The whole political system needs a massive shake up and that much needed change will never come from Labour or the Conservatives, they will tell us what we want to hear and carry on delivering nothing. 

Something needs to change. Either of the parties seems to offer a centre ground package when they are in opposition and then drift as time goes on.

I don't see migrants, benefits et al as a left or right agenda although they are often painted as such. As an example we desperately need workers but the 'migrants' are used as a political pawn and westminster is unable to have an adult conversation with the masses. The same on benefits, housing, nhs, education. et al The 4 year time horizon exacerbates the issue.

[the hitman]

To answer the OP’s question- no I don’t think Boris will return, which is probably best as he is an ex for a reason. In my experience you going go back to an ex if your desperate.

The county needs someone who is untarnished from the Boris or Truss era, but has the tools to do the job.

My vote would go to Penny Mordaunt, she is probably the one person Kier Starmmer would fear most at PM Q’s .

Fresh start fresh ideas needed from whoever gets the job.

[12gauge82]

31 minutes ago, oowee said:

? Pension no. Expenses going forward? 

Something needs to change. Either of the parties seems to offer a centre ground package when they are in opposition and then drift as time goes on.

I don't see migrants, benefits et al as a left or right agenda although they are often painted as such. As an example we desperately need workers but the 'migrants' are used as a political pawn and westminster is unable to have an adult conversation with the masses. The same on benefits, housing, nhs, education. et al The 4 year time horizon exacerbates the issue.

Do we desperately need foreign workers? Filling jobs with cheap foreign labour benefits the rich far more than the majority of the UK population. 

This countrys political system has walked on the little people for far too long, I count myself in a privileged position but I'm disgusted at how this country works, people are being reduced to virtual slave labour for the benefit of a very privileged few,told they need to tighten their belts whilst the richest in society have become substantially richer from the labour of those who can't afford to pay their bills. Its disgraceful. 

This country needs radical political change if people want any hope of a fairer society that works for everyone. 

[Dave-G]

21 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

Do we desperately need foreign workers? Filling jobs with cheap foreign labour benefits the rich far more than the majority of the UK population. 

This countrys political system has walked on the little people for far too long, I count myself in a privileged position but I'm disgusted at how this country works, people are being reduced to virtual slave labour for the benefit of a very privileged few,told they need to tighten their belts whilst the richest in society have become substantially richer from the labour of those who can't afford to pay their bills. Its disgraceful. 

This country needs radical political change if people want any hope of a fairer society that works for everyone. 

That's how many countries work - peasants and the well off.

Whoever is funding all the illegals from the poorest countries - who can't afford boat crossings of both the Mediterranean and English channel is using immigration to turn Britain into a third world country - and is probably quite pleased with the success.

[12gauge82]

13 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

That's how many countries work - peasants and the well off.

Whoever is funding all the illegals from the poorest countries - who can't afford boat crossings of both the Mediterranean and English channel is using immigration to turn Britain into a third world country - and is probably quite pleased with the success.

Its a globalist adgeda and the same people who have ousted Boris and now truss, replacing them with remainer puppets like Hunt. The whole thing stinks and they have the very people they're screwing over (the general public) doing they're dirty work for them. 

[oowee]

1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said:

Do we desperately need foreign workers? Filling jobs with cheap foreign labour benefits the rich far more than the majority of the UK population. 

This countrys political system has walked on the little people for far too long, I count myself in a privileged position but I'm disgusted at how this country works, people are being reduced to virtual slave labour for the benefit of a very privileged few,told they need to tighten their belts whilst the richest in society have become substantially richer from the labour of those who can't afford to pay their bills. Its disgraceful. 

This country needs radical political change if people want any hope of a fairer society that works for everyone. 

We have tens of thousands of vacancies in care, and hospitals. We have 10000 beds blocked in hospitals as there insufficient care places. The point is not the numbers but that the conservatives cannot have a sensible conversation with its supporters about how we get who we want into the country. The same goes for progressing Brexit, border security even down to the pensions triple lock. 

The same will be the case with Labour. I cannot see how either party will get us where we need to be. 

 

[ditchman]

i think it is now a dead cert that boris will be the next prime minister..........all  he needs to do is reach the 100 threshold..and regardless of the number sunak gets...the next round (as they have both qualified) goes to the party faithful...(who dont like sunak)...and prefer boris to finish the job he started

its a done deal i rekon

 

what a to do..............................anyone interested in entering polotics ?.....you need to have a screw loose to do so

[Vince Green]

4 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

What has been shown since the Cons pushed Boris out and now Liz Truss is there is an element within the party that is never going to allow the electorate to get what they voted for. 

On that basis I'm voting reform or reclaim at the next election, I see no other sensible alternative. 

The trouble with that is you might as well just not vote 

But you are right, there is an element  on the left of the party that appear to just like the sound of their own voices

[oldypigeonpopper]

3 hours ago, oowee said:

? Pension no. Expenses going forward? 

Something needs to change. Either of the parties seems to offer a centre ground package when they are in opposition and then drift as time goes on.

I don't see migrants, benefits et al as a left or right agenda although they are often painted as such. As an example we desperately need workers but the 'migrants' are used as a political pawn and westminster is unable to have an adult conversation with the masses. The same on benefits, housing, nhs, education. et al The 4 year time horizon exacerbates the issue.

Ah my mistake, still a lot of money well (not) deserved 

[smokingdragon]

Elect Boris as leader again in time for the Parliamentary Privileges Committee investigation to find him in contempt of parliament and basically he couls lose his seat

What punishments could Boris Johnson face?

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle confirmed the committee’s findings would fall within the remit of the Recall of MPs Act, following advice from a leading lawyer.

That would mean a suspension of 10 or more sitting days, or 14 calendar days, would trigger a recall petition. If at least 10% of voters in Mr Johnson’s Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat demand a by-election he would lose his place as an MP, but would be eligible to stand again in the contest.

ITV are already reporting that that the end is nigh

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-10-21/damning-partygate-evidence-means-boris-johnson-could-be-gone-by-christmas

This would absolutely shaft the country yet again 😞

 

 

[amateur]

3 minutes ago, smokingdragon said:

Elect Boris as leader again in time for the Parliamentary Privileges Committee investigation to find him in contempt of parliament and basically he couls lose his seat

What punishments could Boris Johnson face?

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle confirmed the committee’s findings would fall within the remit of the Recall of MPs Act, following advice from a leading lawyer.

That would mean a suspension of 10 or more sitting days, or 14 calendar days, would trigger a recall petition. If at least 10% of voters in Mr Johnson’s Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat demand a by-election he would lose his place as an MP, but would be eligible to stand again in the contest.

ITV are already reporting that that the end is nigh

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-10-21/damning-partygate-evidence-means-boris-johnson-could-be-gone-by-christmas

This would absolutely shaft the country yet again 😞

 

 

No, King Charles just pardons him for the sake of the kingdom.

Jobs a good'un

[welsh1]

7 minutes ago, smokingdragon said:

Elect Boris as leader again in time for the Parliamentary Privileges Committee investigation to find him in contempt of parliament and basically he couls lose his seat

What punishments could Boris Johnson face?

Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle confirmed the committee’s findings would fall within the remit of the Recall of MPs Act, following advice from a leading lawyer.

That would mean a suspension of 10 or more sitting days, or 14 calendar days, would trigger a recall petition. If at least 10% of voters in Mr Johnson’s Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat demand a by-election he would lose his place as an MP, but would be eligible to stand again in the contest.

ITV are already reporting that that the end is nigh

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-10-21/damning-partygate-evidence-means-boris-johnson-could-be-gone-by-christmas

This would absolutely shaft the country yet again 😞

 

 

So 10% of his constituants need to get a petition signed , could be done, but strangely no one has bothered in the past, and boris had a large vote for him last election and a swing up ward, the labour candidate had a swing down.

 

What a lot of the media and the twitterati don't realise is the big world thinks differently to their little bubble of indignation and hate of all things that don't comply with their way. Boris is popular with a lot of voters stil, he is labours biggest fear.

 

Which politician would you have a pint and a laugh with, i bet starmer isn't on the list is it, and that is labours problem, starmer is a grey man, no charisma, no glint in his eye when he chats to the old ladies, no passion when he slaps the old lads on the back laughing heartely, Boris has that in buckets, he is a buffoon, but joe public like that.