TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mungler said: Very sad. Found by dog walkers apparently. Well, come on then.................................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Well, come on then.................................................... It’s always the dog walkers that get there in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 08/02/2023 at 18:41, Mungler said: Alright then, so how weird is it? My 2p. I’ve had a spaniel and been round hundreds. I’ve not seen a spaniel yet that wouldn’t follow their owner into water. And the dog was found bone dry. So, without knowing anything other than cocker spaniels, I’m 99% certain she didn’t fall in that river. Armchair sleuths, discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I’m still amazed the dog was bone dry. We’ve just spent the weekend in Devon seaside town and every spaniel we saw was drenched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 Still waiting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, JKD said: Well, in all of this dreadful event, my thoughts are with her family and friends ☹️ Hello, yes if it turns out they have found her my thoughts are with family and friends to , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Still waiting! …for the post mortem. Me too. Shame the police didn’t find the body before releasing her medical file to the world. Well done to the dog walkers. Edited February 19, 2023 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 Can you not say it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Can you not say it then? This 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 11/02/2023 at 08:21, Mungler said: He probably shouldn’t be second guessing the police or discussing his views in public, right? (Insert shaking head here). Does anyone still think we shouldn’t be discussing this or the police decision to focus on their ‘theory’ she went into the water, thereby closing off all other lines of enquiry and public assistance / awareness? I increasingly find this forum stocked full of some very thick people who are only too happy to entirely switch off their brains, turn off any enquiring thought or go against the Daily Mail or what they are told. The situation to hand isn’t about some massive conspiracy - but it raises a number of questions which should be discussed and considered. There we go. Remember this post especially this bit On 11/02/2023 at 08:21, Mungler said: I increasingly find this forum stocked full of some very thick people who are only too happy to entirely switch off their brains, turn off any enquiring thought or go against the Daily Mail or what they are told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 Let us hope it is not her, BUT it will be someone's loved one found dead in the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Mungler said: I’m still amazed the dog was bone dry. We’ve just spent the weekend in Devon seaside town and every spaniel we saw was drenched. im still wondering about the BBC interview with the ole boy who found the phone on the bench and "the dog tied up"..... which promted him to phone the authorities.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Let us hope it is not her, BUT it will be someone's loved one found dead in the river. As I said in the beginning I didn't think it was right to second quess maybe not emiediat family looking in but close friends maybe now thoughts are with her family should have thought of that before some of the accusations was put out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 The body has either traversed the weir, which appeared to be impossible given the slow current, or she went into the water below the weir. Autopsy might throw more light on how she got there. It seems amazing that the body appears to have travelled one mile in three weeks and was spotted floating on the top. The diving expert concentrated on the area above the weir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Gordon R said: Autopsy might throw more light on how she got there. It seems amazing that the body appears to have travelled one mile in three weeks and was spotted floating on the top. The diving expert concentrated on the area above the weir. I'm sure it will, I've said before I couldn't imagine a body being on the water and not being spotted. When we had a dog I was up and down our river every day, going much further when off work, and I'm sure the locals will have been being extra vigilant when they have been out lately. 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Can you not say it then? If your waiting for @Mungler to say the police were right, the media a joke, I wouldn't hold your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mice! said: I'm sure it will, I've said before I couldn't imagine a body being on the water and not being spotted. When we had a dog I was up and down our river every day, going much further when off work, and I'm sure the locals will have been being extra vigilant when they have been out lately. If your waiting for @Mungler to say the police were right, the media a joke, I wouldn't hold your breath. Body's will sink and not come up until decomposition starts which in cold water can take several weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Mungler said: I’m still amazed the dog was bone dry. We’ve just spent the weekend in Devon seaside town and every spaniel we saw was drenched. There’s a reason that to become a Field Trial Champion, the dog has to pass a water test to ensure it will willingly enter water. Just the mere fact that this test exists shows that there are spaniels out there that will refuse to enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: There’s a reason that to become a Field Trial Champion, the dog has to pass a water test to ensure it will willingly enter water. Just the mere fact that this test exists shows that there are spaniels out there that will refuse to enter. Absolutely, a friends Spaniel was very reluctant to go in water, mine however actively seeks it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: Body's will sink and not come up until decomposition starts which in cold water can take several weeks. Yes this could be the reason, let's see what the postmortem says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: Body's will sink and not come up until decomposition starts which in cold water can take several weeks. I have not joined this converstaion before, as from the start I said she had gone in the river either accidentally or by preferance. As said bodies sink and in cold conditions can take up to three to four weeks before coming up due to the decomposition gases bringing them up. NOT a nice job for the crew recovering, I have been there a few times myself as both coroners officer and local bobby. Terrible for those two youngsters. They are going to need a lot of care and attention in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 56 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: There’s a reason that to become a Field Trial Champion, the dog has to pass a water test to ensure it will willingly enter water. Just the mere fact that this test exists shows that there are spaniels out there that will refuse to enter. As i pointed out previosly....the BBC yesterday interviewed the old boy who raised the alarm he said during the conversation that "the dog was tied up" and found the phone on the bench which prompted him to call the authorites....this interview has not (as far as i know been repeated) which would account for the dog being dry...and nowhere near where the bodyhas been found... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: ...the body appears to have travelled one mile in three weeks... It's a tidal river below the weir, so it could have travelled many miles. 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: Edited Edited February 19, 2023 by henry d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 11/02/2023 at 08:21, Mungler said: Husband has come out in the news today to say he doesn’t think she went into the water and he wants all other lines of investigation kept open….. He probably shouldn’t be second guessing the police or discussing his views in public, right? (Insert shaking head here). Does anyone still think we shouldn’t be discussing this or the police decision to focus on their ‘theory’ she went into the water, thereby closing off all other lines of enquiry and public assistance / awareness? I increasingly find this forum stocked full of some very thick people who are only too happy to entirely switch off their brains, turn off any enquiring thought or go against the Daily Mail or what they are told. The situation to hand isn’t about some massive conspiracy - but it raises a number of questions which should be discussed and considered. There we go. . No apology for these comments I take it … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Just the mere fact that this test exists shows that there are spaniels out there that will refuse to enter. Especially when tied up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 11 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Body's will sink and not come up until decomposition starts which in cold water can take several weeks. Yes I remember being told years ago that bodies that have drowned behave differently in fresh and salt water. In fresh water they go straight to the bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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