wymberley Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just as an aside, the new Devon and Cornwall bi directional speed cameras will have matched the £500,000 allocated for the FEO training in just 23.4 days so there's no possible excuse for any delay in implementing its introduction, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 29/06/2023 at 15:53, PeterHenry said: Compared to some of the things being mooted, a lot of this is relatively positive Very happy to see that the proposal of moving shotguns to section 1 was rejected. A lot of the other extreme suggestions didn't make the cut either. The survey is slanted, but the report itself was not as negative as I had expected. Nice to have a small victory for once. Edited June 30, 2023 by Genghis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Genghis said: Very happy to see that the proposal of moving shotguns to section 1 was rejected. A lot of the other extreme suggestions didn't make the cut either. The survey is slanted, but the report itself was not as negative as I had expected. Nice to have a small victory for once. Where can we see the results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Where can we see the results? The government response to the coroner's report is here: Written statements - Written questions, answers and statements - UK Parliament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 10:45, HantsRob said: ... Is a shotgun cartridge (which doesn't require a licence to purchase an own) considered as ammunition in the eyes of UK law? Have you tried to purchase cartridges a) with out your cert or b) someone else's cert and a signed cover letter? No gun shop i've ever been in would sell them to you. And a lot i think would not sell them to you with option b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Also done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 hours ago, fse10 said: Have you tried to purchase cartridges a) with out your cert or b) someone else's cert and a signed cover letter? No gun shop i've ever been in would sell them to you. And a lot i think would not sell them to you with option b. Just because it becomes a store policy, or even good practice, it does not make it law. a. Yes. Successfully a fair few times at various grounds. I will say never in a store front of a retail outlet. Gun shops are not the only place to purchase. b. I have heard this is possible, again I have no need to try so not sure how to demonstrate that either way. Re: consultation, now done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHE Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, HantsRob said: Just because it becomes a store policy, or even good practice, it does not make it law. a. Yes. Successfully a fair few times at various grounds. I will say never in a store front of a retail outlet. Gun shops are not the only place to purchase. b. I have heard this is possible, again I have no need to try so not sure how to demonstrate that either way. Re: consultation, now done. As above. I nearly always buy at shooting grounds and have never been asked for my certificate, they know that I have one. Same price, no travelling, so the obvious place to buy. The last time that I bought from a dealer they didn't know me from Adam but were happy with the photo of my certificate on my phone. Consultation done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 10:45, HantsRob said: 5. Not everyone knows someone that's a doctor, GP, lawyer etc that knows them sufficiently well to vouch for them. Also, they aim so high then include landlord??! That's...... bizarre. I believe the fact that MP's are on the list is what sets the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted July 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Yesterday BASC published guidance on completing the Home Office survey in response to the consultation and the Association is urging every shotgun and firearm certificate holder in Great Britain to have their say.Recommendations to merge shotgun and firearms licensing conditions have been dropped prior to publication of the consultation. This was due to lobbying by BASC and others, on the grounds that the proposals were neither evidence-led nor proportionate.However, there remain several harmful proposals that need to be opposed, and several helpful proposals to be supported.Click here to read the guidance and submit your response - it takes 5 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Have just posted the link to my shooting syndicate. No doubt I’ll soon get the usual response………tumbleweed! 💨💨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Why is there no mention on the survey of this recommendation.. The Government is also in the process of reviewing firearms licensing fees to move to full cost recovery for the police. We intend to consult on the new fees this Summer and to bring forward the necessary Statutory Instrument to make the fee changes later this year. Should full cost recovery also be applied to things like Notting Hill Carnival, Pride March or other non crime police involvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted August 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 Less than two weeks left to respond - deadline is Wednesday 23 August - please spare 5 minutes for shooting. Click here for advice on completing the consultation response form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downforce Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 I believe its the last chance to respond today Note it is not mandatory to give your personal detail it can be submitted anonymously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, Downforce said: Note it is not mandatory to give your personal detail it can be submitted anonymously And multiple times , strangely enough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 19 hours ago, Rewulf said: And multiple times , strangely enough.. It will have a footprint including IP, so I would be cautious about replying multiple times for fear that they may disregard those results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, HantsRob said: It will have a footprint including IP, so I would be cautious about replying multiple times for fear that they may disregard those results. It certainly wasnt intentional, the first time I did it from from a tablet, and didnt put my details, then I thought, maybe they wont count it without details , so did it again from my work computer on a different network with name ect. Then I saw this thread and realised you dont need details... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 VPN, and you are good to go......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 Thanks to everyone that took the time to respond to the consultation, which closed last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windswept Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 On 24/08/2023 at 08:45, HantsRob said: It will have a footprint including IP, so I would be cautious about replying multiple times for fear that they may disregard those results. How do they distinguish between multiple replies from the same person or different people replying with the same IP, e.g. two people who shoot who live together? I do get your point though. I decided not to give my name and address as the survey was not hosted on a government site and there didnt seem any guarantee who would have access to the data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357shooter Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 04/07/2023 at 15:57, Rem260 said: Why is there no mention on the survey of this recommendation.. The Government is also in the process of reviewing firearms licensing fees to move to full cost recovery for the police. We intend to consult on the new fees this Summer and to bring forward the necessary Statutory Instrument to make the fee changes later this year. Should full cost recovery also be applied to things like Notting Hill Carnival, Pride March or other non crime police involvements. it is true that the police are paid to do a job no matter what but for us they expect to be paid twice.do all criminals pay for the 10 or so police that turn up and escort them to the police station and do they pay for the custody sergeant to process them.if we pay do the crims that are locked up pay for bed and breakfast also ?.also do they pay for all court cost ?.should also make the crims pay for the taxi service to the police station too.why as tax payers should we foot the bill for this?.just not fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, .357shooter said: it is true that the police are paid to do a job no matter what but for us they expect to be paid twice.do all criminals pay for the 10 or so police that turn up and escort them to the police station and do they pay for the custody sergeant to process them.if we pay do the crims that are locked up pay for bed and breakfast also ?.also do they pay for all court cost ?.should also make the crims pay for the taxi service to the police station too.why as tax payers should we foot the bill for this?.just not fair. Eh? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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