Insanity of politics.

[oowee]

I have been following a story in Slovakia where a poacher (wolf hunter) has been appointed as head of one of the largest National Parks in the Country. At the same time the new committee chair for the country's Covid enquiry is an antivaxxer.  Simply insane.

Then i see this 🤣

David Frost, the influential Conservative peer who has been criticised for claiming that rising global temperatures could be beneficial to the UK, is being appointed to a key parliamentary committee on the climate crisis.

[Weihrauch17]

11 minutes ago, oowee said:

I have been following a story in Slovakia where a poacher (wolf hunter) has been appointed as head of one of the largest National Parks in the Country. At the same time the new committee chair for the country's Covid enquiry is an antivaxxer.  Simply insane.

Then i see this 🤣

David Frost, the influential Conservative peer who has been criticised for claiming that rising global temperatures could be beneficial to the UK, is being appointed to a key parliamentary committee on the climate crisis.

He is not wrong is he looking at my utility bill!

[ditchman]

there have been a succession of transort ministers that dont know the difference twix desiel enjines and petrol engines....and even one or more transort ministers that do not pocess a driving liecense.....

slovakia must have learnt from us !!

[stumfelter]

Poacher to gamekeeper makes perfect sense to me...

[enfieldspares]

18 minutes ago, ditchman said:

there have been a succession of transort ministers that dont know the difference twix desiel enjines and petrol engines....and even one or more transort ministers that do not pocess a driving liecense.....

slovakia must have learnt from us !!

Barbara Castle couldn't drive. But sometimes outsiders make better choices as they question why a thing has always been done "just so" and challenge old outdated ideas.

But having said that former soldiers (except those such as Eisenhower who have held high command) make bad military leaders. Not bad leaders but bad where military decisions are made. The two Churchill and Hitler both made poor military decisions as they'd never held more than field rank. Churchill's bad decisions in WWII are Force Z, the decision to take troops from North Africa in December 1940 to send to Greece when the Italian Army had been routed, Churchill's belief in Italy as "the soft underbelly of Europe" as a way to win WWII. Hitler that the Mauser 98 that had served him in WWI would be all that was needed in WWII, the decision to make the Me262 a bomber, the decision that holding ground at all costs (which WWI had shown to be a correct decision on the Western Front) was also correct for WWII. 

[johnphilip]

The transport minister  for Scotland. The now leader of the SNP was done for no car Insurance  

[Flashman]

 

14 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

The transport minister  for Scotland. The now leader of the SNP was done for no car Insurance  

That’s the least criminal thing going on his family at the moment. 

[12gauge82]

2 hours ago, oowee said:

I have been following a story in Slovakia where a poacher (wolf hunter) has been appointed as head of one of the largest National Parks in the Country. At the same time the new committee chair for the country's Covid enquiry is an antivaxxer.  Simply insane.

Then i see this 🤣

David Frost, the influential Conservative peer who has been criticised for claiming that rising global temperatures could be beneficial to the UK, is being appointed to a key parliamentary committee on the climate crisis.

All seem like good appointments to me.

[johnphilip]

1 hour ago, Flashman said:

 

That’s the least criminal thing going on his family at the moment. 

So true 

[old man]

13 hours ago, oowee said:

I have been following a story in Slovakia where a poacher (wolf hunter) has been appointed as head of one of the largest National Parks in the Country. At the same time the new committee chair for the country's Covid enquiry is an antivaxxer.  Simply insane.

Then i see this 🤣

David Frost, the influential Conservative peer who has been criticised for claiming that rising global temperatures could be beneficial to the UK, is being appointed to a key parliamentary committee on the climate crisis.

You may be missing the point of being in politics, it's just a well paid meaningless job for your useless mates?

[Westward]

14 hours ago, oowee said:

David Frost, the influential Conservative peer who has been criticised for claiming that rising global temperatures could be beneficial to the UK, is being appointed to a key parliamentary committee on the climate crisis.

Except that he's dead right about climate change unlike the mindless "groupthinkers" and the "CO2 is a pollutant" mantras. It's a shame he's a peer as IMO he would have been by far the best PM of the last 70 years. I like positive leaders who actually lead and get things done, and the dithering procrastinators we continually get lumbered with (from either party) are low achievers dominated by the wrong priorities.

And I have no problem with poacher turned gamekeeper - it makes perfect sense to me.

[Rewulf]

On 23/01/2024 at 11:00, Westward said:

Except that he's dead right about climate change unlike the mindless "groupthinkers" and the "CO2 is a pollutant" mantras.

Absolutely 

 

On 22/01/2024 at 19:50, oowee said:

David Frost, the influential Conservative peer who has been criticised for claiming that rising global temperatures could be beneficial to the UK, is being appointed to a key parliamentary committee on the climate crisis.

Why would they not be ?

Think about it, a rise of even 1 degree C would allow better growing seasons, less use of energy, better solar farming, the list of benefits is endless....
Yet we are being conditioned to believe even the slightest increase of global mean temperatures is a cataclysmic , world ending event !

Think about northern climes in Canada, Skandi countries  and *gasp* Russia, at the moment unfarmable permafrost, freed up to be able to farm and house people, even Scotland might become habitable at some point 😆

If western governments didnt have the elite driven obsession, with warring against peoples who might have some fossil fuel resources, and diverted the budget into more renewables, carbon capture technology, desalinisation ect, would not that be a better idea ?

I find it peculiar that us plebs dont see this contradictions in terms more easily, why preach about carbon reduction and how we need to make 'sacrifices' to forestall the climate 'emergency' while they divert hundreds of billions into destroying lives and infrastructure, that will eventually need to be rebuilt, creating more carbon emissions.

If the BS rising sea story perks your interest, look at Egypts plans to flood the Qattara depression, a plan that has existed in various forms for 100 years.
It would change the climate in the Sahara and middle east, solar powered desalination plants creating water for agriculture, jobs and housing , hydro electric and tourism.
You dont hear of these type of positive plans, because elite driven media doesnt want you to know about the positive plans to deal with climate change, its more about taxation and loss of freedoms.

Rant over

[Penelope]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Absolutely 

 

Why would they not be ?

Think about it, a rise of even 1 degree C would allow better growing seasons, less use of energy, better solar farming, the list of benefits is endless....
Yet we are being conditioned to believe even the slightest increase of global mean temperatures is a cataclysmic , world ending event !

Think about northern climes in Canada, Skandi countries  and *gasp* Russia, at the moment unfarmable permafrost, freed up to be able to farm and house people, even Scotland might become habitable at some point 😆

If western governments didnt have the elite driven obsession, with warring against peoples who might have some fossil fuel resources, and diverted the budget into more renewables, carbon capture technology, desalinisation ect, would not that be a better idea ?

I find it peculiar that us plebs dont see this contradictions in terms more easily, why preach about carbon reduction and how we need to make 'sacrifices' to forestall the climate 'emergency' while they divert hundreds of billions into destroying lives and infrastructure, that will eventually need to be rebuilt, creating more carbon emissions.

If the BS rising sea story perks your interest, look at Egypts plans to flood the Qattara depression, a plan that has existed in various forms for 100 years.
It would change the climate in the Sahara and middle east, solar powered desalination plants creating water for agriculture, jobs and housing , hydro electric and tourism.
You dont hear of these type of positive plans, because elite driven media doesnt want you to know about the positive plans to deal with climate change, its more about taxation and loss of freedoms.

Rant over

'cause it's all about the Great Con, but nowhere near as entertaining as The Sting.

[islandgun]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Absolutely 

 

Why would they not be ?

Think about it, a rise of even 1 degree C would allow better growing seasons, less use of energy, better solar farming, the list of benefits is endless....
Yet we are being conditioned to believe even the slightest increase of global mean temperatures is a cataclysmic , world ending event !

Think about northern climes in Canada, Skandi countries  and *gasp* Russia, at the moment unfarmable permafrost, freed up to be able to farm and house people, even Scotland might become habitable at some point 😆

If western governments didnt have the elite driven obsession, with warring against peoples who might have some fossil fuel resources, and diverted the budget into more renewables, carbon capture technology, desalinisation ect, would not that be a better idea ?

I find it peculiar that us plebs dont see this contradictions in terms more easily, why preach about carbon reduction and how we need to make 'sacrifices' to forestall the climate 'emergency' while they divert hundreds of billions into destroying lives and infrastructure, that will eventually need to be rebuilt, creating more carbon emissions.

If the BS rising sea story perks your interest, look at Egypts plans to flood the Qattara depression, a plan that has existed in various forms for 100 years.
It would change the climate in the Sahara and middle east, solar powered desalination plants creating water for agriculture, jobs and housing , hydro electric and tourism.
You dont hear of these type of positive plans, because elite driven media doesnt want you to know about the positive plans to deal with climate change, its more about taxation and loss of freedoms.

Rant over

Good rant

[Scully]

2 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Absolutely 

 

Why would they not be ?

Think about it, a rise of even 1 degree C would allow better growing seasons, less use of energy, better solar farming, the list of benefits is endless....
Yet we are being conditioned to believe even the slightest increase of global mean temperatures is a cataclysmic , world ending event !

Think about northern climes in Canada, Skandi countries  and *gasp* Russia, at the moment unfarmable permafrost, freed up to be able to farm and house people, even Scotland might become habitable at some point 😆

If western governments didnt have the elite driven obsession, with warring against peoples who might have some fossil fuel resources, and diverted the budget into more renewables, carbon capture technology, desalinisation ect, would not that be a better idea ?

I find it peculiar that us plebs dont see this contradictions in terms more easily, why preach about carbon reduction and how we need to make 'sacrifices' to forestall the climate 'emergency' while they divert hundreds of billions into destroying lives and infrastructure, that will eventually need to be rebuilt, creating more carbon emissions.

If the BS rising sea story perks your interest, look at Egypts plans to flood the Qattara depression, a plan that has existed in various forms for 100 years.
It would change the climate in the Sahara and middle east, solar powered desalination plants creating water for agriculture, jobs and housing , hydro electric and tourism.
You dont hear of these type of positive plans, because elite driven media doesnt want you to know about the positive plans to deal with climate change, its more about taxation and loss of freedoms.

Rant over

Good post. Totally agree. 👍

[Good shot?]

There are many examples of events/ situations created to enable fortunes to be amassed by the few and climate change is currently where the money.  Is going.

[islandgun]

11 minutes ago, Good shot? said:

There are many examples of events/ situations created to enable fortunes to be amassed by the few and climate change is currently where the money.  Is going.

War is another

[oowee]

Oh dear. 😢

[Westward]

CO2 is not a pollutant, it is an essential gas and without it there would be no life as we know it. Unfortunately for the climate hysterics like the BBC, there are several other natural ways in which CO2 is released into the atmosphere and added together they account for 97% of the total. Emissions from human activity accounts for... 3% of the total yet governments are willing to throw their economies under the bus on the apparent coincidence between adding a mere 3% of the total CO2 released into the atmosphere and the current warming of the planet.

Just as the Earth naturally releases CO2 without any help from us, it also has numerous ways of absorbing it. CO2 is a trace gas only and today's level of 0.04% of the atmosphere is still much lower than at other periods in the past.

The 2000 or so comedians on the IPCC gravy train can't explain why the medieval warming period or the early 20th century warming period could have happened. Nor can they explain either the little ice age in the 15/16th centuries or the post WW2 cooling period when the "climate experts" were predicting a new ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were rising. What they do is pretend these things didn't happen or, in several cases such as the 10 year pause in rising temperatures of the early 21st century, they "adjust" the recorded figures to fit their theory.

The real coincidence is that warming happens and like cooling, it always has. The committed disciples such as the BBC along with the IPCC and their acolytes won't tell you this, but ice core samples prove beyond doubt that CO2 increases are the result of warming not the cause.

[Penelope]

46 minutes ago, Westward said:

CO2 is not a pollutant, it is an essential gas and without it there would be no life as we know it. Unfortunately for the climate hysterics like the BBC, there are several other natural ways in which CO2 is released into the atmosphere and added together they account for 97% of the total. Emissions from human activity accounts for... 3% of the total yet governments are willing to throw their economies under the bus on the apparent coincidence between adding a mere 3% of the total CO2 released into the atmosphere and the current warming of the planet.

Just as the Earth naturally releases CO2 without any help from us, it also has numerous ways of absorbing it. CO2 is a trace gas only and today's level of 0.04% of the atmosphere is still much lower than at other periods in the past.

The 2000 or so comedians on the IPCC gravy train can't explain why the medieval warming period or the early 20th century warming period could have happened. Nor can they explain either the little ice age in the 15/16th centuries or the post WW2 cooling period when the "climate experts" were predicting a new ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were rising. What they do is pretend these things didn't happen or, in several cases such as the 10 year pause in rising temperatures of the early 21st century, they "adjust" the recorded figures to fit their theory.

The real coincidence is that warming happens and like cooling, it always has. The committed disciples such as the BBC along with the IPCC and their acolytes won't tell you this, but ice core samples prove beyond doubt that CO2 increases are the result of warming not the cause.

👏🏻

[Agriv8]

1 hour ago, Westward said:

CO2 is not a pollutant, it is an essential gas and without it there would be no life as we know it. Unfortunately for the climate hysterics like the BBC, there are several other natural ways in which CO2 is released into the atmosphere and added together they account for 97% of the total. Emissions from human activity accounts for... 3% of the total yet governments are willing to throw their economies under the bus on the apparent coincidence between adding a mere 3% of the total CO2 released into the atmosphere and the current warming of the planet.

Just as the Earth naturally releases CO2 without any help from us, it also has numerous ways of absorbing it. CO2 is a trace gas only and today's level of 0.04% of the atmosphere is still much lower than at other periods in the past.

The 2000 or so comedians on the IPCC gravy train can't explain why the medieval warming period or the early 20th century warming period could have happened. Nor can they explain either the little ice age in the 15/16th centuries or the post WW2 cooling period when the "climate experts" were predicting a new ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were rising. What they do is pretend these things didn't happen or, in several cases such as the 10 year pause in rising temperatures of the early 21st century, they "adjust" the recorded figures to fit their theory.

The real coincidence is that warming happens and like cooling, it always has. The committed disciples such as the BBC along with the IPCC and their acolytes won't tell you this, but ice core samples prove beyond doubt that CO2 increases are the result of warming not the cause.

I like that summary! Add to this that accurate temperature readings have only been available for the last 100 years ! 
 
temperature past that are theory so as with all things statistics related can be made to fit the narrative.

an ever growing human population must be a root contributor!

Agriv8

[Westward]

The medieval warming and little ice age are well documented. There are still the ruins of farming settlements in Greenland, set up after the Vikings arrived in the 9th century. Some years back bodies were found in a derelict building and it's thought they died of starvation because the climate changed and became too cold for agriculture. However, it doesn't conform to the theory and doesn't fit the narrative so it's crucially important to ignore it.

The world population has quadrupled during my lifetime and that's the real upcoming catastrophe. For example, the continent of Africa has the fastest growing population of any region in the world, yet in my lifetime has never been able produce enough food crops, hence virtually every year there's another drought somewhere and yet another famine and another mass migration due to malnutrition. And every year the charities and NGOs apply their usual TV appeals carefully crafted to maximise the emotional blackmail in order to get us to part with money for the food convoys which then get hijacked by the army and subsequently sold back to whichever charity will pay the most.

[Penelope]

1 hour ago, Westward said:

The medieval warming and little ice age are well documented. There are still the ruins of farming settlements in Greenland, set up after the Vikings arrived in the 9th century. Some years back bodies were found in a derelict building and it's thought they died of starvation because the climate changed and became too cold for agriculture. However, it doesn't conform to the theory and doesn't fit the narrative so it's crucially important to ignore it.

The world population has quadrupled during my lifetime and that's the real upcoming catastrophe. For example, the continent of Africa has the fastest growing population of any region in the world, yet in my lifetime has never been able produce enough food crops, hence virtually every year there's another drought somewhere and yet another famine and another mass migration due to malnutrition. And every year the charities and NGOs apply their usual TV appeals carefully crafted to maximise the emotional blackmail in order to get us to part with money for the food convoys which then get hijacked by the army and subsequently sold back to whichever charity will pay the most.

It's a long one, but some interesting info regarding the ice core data.

[Westward]

This proves how unutterably stupid and misguided the "Climatologist" who insist CO2 causes climate change really are. This is long but brilliantly destroys the "groupthink" propagated by the IPCC and the totally biased BBC. This vid should be compulsory viewing in all secondary schools.

 

[Penelope]

1 hour ago, Westward said:

This proves how unutterably stupid and misguided the "Climatologist" who insist CO2 causes climate change really are. This is long but brilliantly destroys the "groupthink" propagated by the IPCC and the totally biased BBC. This vid should be compulsory viewing in all secondary schools.

 

Thanks, I shall watch that tonight. No doubt, it'll make something boil, but not the planet.