TOPGUN749 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) Just had my latest bill, band B house worth about £120,000, council tax £1778.-25% single occupancy £1333! Up 7.95% on last year. Now 10% of total income,Yet the owners of £1million+ London houses paying under £1,000 a year. No doubt there are some bills higher with similar low value homes? Edited March 15 by TOPGUN749 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Just had mine 2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted March 15 Author Report Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: Just had mine 2k Bit cheaper down Cwmbran way I think? Band D here,worth about £175,000- £260,000 is now £2280 a year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Oh, gawd, don't start. It's not the total figure that gets me but the increases asked for. All organisations bar one are asking for either 2 or 3 percent. For some unknown reason the totally useless P&CC needs some 4.9% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted March 15 Author Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, wymberley said: Oh, gawd, don't start. It's not the total figure that gets me but the increases asked for. All organisations bar one are asking for either 2 or 3 percent. For some unknown reason the totally useless P&CC needs some 4.9% I’d prefer 4.9% to our 7.95% increase ! 😊Some areas are 10% or more. Edited March 15 by TOPGUN749 Addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, wymberley said: Oh, gawd, don't start. It's not the total figure that gets me but the increases asked for. All organisations bar one are asking for either 2 or 3 percent. For some unknown reason the totally useless P&CC needs some 4.9% Gawd, ONLY 4.9% We also have the bloody Mayoral Precept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 I don`t know the answer to this but as central government have made cuts local council funding is it that the more wasteful local councils that are increasing the cost to the maximum they are allowed?. If it is a wasteful council then the people that vote their local councils into office need to look harder at which services they are going to spend the publics money on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 18 minutes ago, sportsbob said: I don`t know the answer to this but as central government have made cuts local council funding is it that the more wasteful local councils that are increasing the cost to the maximum they are allowed?. If it is a wasteful council then the people that vote their local councils into office need to look harder at which services they are going to spend the publics money on. Quite possibly, personally I reckon a lot more independent Councillors will come to the fore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 £3k here - 9% increase with 5% increase for police and town when we moved here 20 years ago it was cheaper than Cheshire - the next county/country over but the way it has increased over the past several years is a joke Apparently the increase in Assembly Members by over 50% will have another big impact on council tax when it happens ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, discobob said: Apparently the increase in Assembly Members by over 50% will have another big impact on council tax when it happens Pigs and troughs springs to mind and in this case totally so called "socialists" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Pigs and troughs springs to mind and in this case totally so called "socialists" explain to me why some council CEO's are on more than the prime minister and why it's only liebour councils that have gone mammaries up🤔 not got this years demand yet (band D) but last years was 2.5k and we've also got a "town" council that's included in the aforementioned rogering. Edited March 15 by Zoli 12 guage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 How is this allowed to happen................ 🚨Labour Run Wigan Council Faces Scrutiny for Lending Millions Amidst Council Tax Increase🚨 /// In a move that has raised eyebrows across Greater Manchester, Wigan Council has been identified as one of the local authorities that loaned money to other councils, including a notable £5 million to Thurrock Council in July, which is due to mature in January[7]. This financial strategy comes at a time when Wigan residents are facing a 4.99 percent increase in their council tax[8], sparking a debate on the council's financial management and priorities. The council tax hike, described by town hall leaders as a decision they were "headlocked" into making[8], aims to address the financial pressures faced by the council, including the need to balance the budget and maintain essential services. The increase is part of a broader trend of financial challenges faced by local authorities across the UK, with many councils grappling with budget deficits and the need to find sustainable funding solutions. Wigan Council's decision to loan money to other councils, such as Thurrock, is part of its investment strategy to generate income. Thurrock Council, which has been significantly indebted to other councils, borrowed £836 million to meet its obligations and buy breathing space as it wrangles with financial challenges[13]. Wigan's loan to Thurrock is part of a wider practice among councils to lend surplus funds to each other, often at interest rates that provide a return on investment. However, the juxtaposition of lending money to other councils while increasing local taxes has prompted questions about the council's financial strategies and priorities. Residents and local stakeholders are particularly concerned about the impact of the council tax rise on households already struggling with the cost-of-living crisis. Wigan Council has defended its financial decisions, highlighting its efforts to manage its budget prudently and maintain essential services without cuts or job losses[5]. The council has also pointed to its successful efforts to cut its debts by £12 million in a year[15], showcasing its commitment to financial stability and responsible management. As councils across England navigate the complex landscape of local government financing, the balance between generating income through investments, like loans to other councils, and ensuring the affordability of local taxes for residents remains a critical challenge. Wigan Council's approach reflects the broader dilemmas faced by local authorities as they strive to secure financial sustainability while meeting the needs of their communities. Citations: [1] Three Greater Manchester councils set to be out of pocket by over £100 million due to finances 'black hole' https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/three-greater-manchester-councils-set-27560640 [2] Funding additions 'too little, too late', Cabinet member says https://www.wigan.gov.uk/News/Articles/2024/January/Funding-additions.aspx [3] Wigan Council leaders add their voice to Household Support Fund calls https://www.wigan.gov.uk/News/Articles/2024/March/Wigan-Council-leaders-add-their-voice-to-Household-Support-Fund-calls.aspx [4] England's councils with more debt than 'bankrupt' Birmingham - see if your local is worse https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/bankrupt-birmingham-council-far-worst-30928463 [5] 'No cuts, no job losses' but council tax rises by 4.99 percent https://www.leighjournal.co.uk/news/24168672.no-cuts-no-job-losses-wigan-council-tax-rises-4-99-percent/ [6] Unions agree to accept local government pay deal https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2023/11/01/unions-agree-to-accept-local-government-pay-deal/ [7] Revealed: Scale of Thurrock's borrowing from other councils https://www.lgcplus.com/finance/revealed-scale-of-thurrocks-borrowing-from-other-councils-15-09-2022/ [8] "We're being headlocked into doing this', town hall chief says as Wiganers face council tax hike https://www.wigantoday.net/news/politics/council/were-being-headlocked-into-doing-this-town-hall-chief-says-as-wiganers-face-council-tax-hike-4543943 [9] Roundtable: The end of outsourcing? https://www.lgcplus.com/finance/roundtable-the-end-of-outsourcing-07-06-2023/ [10] Councils issue update after snow sees bin collections missed https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/councils-issue-update-after-snow-28465553 [11] Wigan Council to receive £25.6 million in funding next year https://www.leighjournal.co.uk/news/24116328.wigan-council-receive-25-6-million-funding-next-year/ [12] The bill for social care agency staff for Greater Manchester has topped £123m in THREE YEARS https://www.wigantoday.net/news/politics/council/social-care-agency-staff-spend-for-greater-manchester-tops-ps123m-in-three-years-4353796 [13] Thurrock Council takes out huge loan to pay back other authorities and buy breathing space as it wrangles with ... https://thurrock.nub.news/news/local-news/thurrock-council-takes-out-huge-loan-to-pay-back-other-authorities-and-buy-breathing-space-as-it-wrangles-with-financial-catastrophy-153053 [14] MP says town 'to get £25.6m boost' - but council doesn't know if it's correct https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mp-says-town-to-256m-28616549 [15] Cash-strapped Wigan Council managed to cut its debts by £12m in a year https://www.wigantoday.net/news/politics/cash-strapped-wigan-council-managed-to-cut-its-debts-by-ps12m-in-a-year-694583 [16] Burnham proposes freeze to Greater Manchester's mayoral tax but rises in police and fire precepts https://www.wigantoday.net/news/people/burnham-proposes-freeze-to-gm-mayoral-tax-but-rises-in-police-and-fire-precepts-4466996 [17] The councils trying to save the High Street https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46625912 [18] Wigan Council and residents win from digital deal https://diginomica.com/wigan-council-and-residents-win-digital-deal [19] Eight councils share £127m Levelling Up Fund boost https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/eight-councils-share-127m-levelling-up-fund-boost/ [20] Here is what Wigan council had to say over lack of government funding https://www.leighjournal.co.uk/news/24088327.wigan-council-say-lack-government-funding/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, discobob said: £3k here - 9% increase with 5% increase for police and town when we moved here 20 years ago it was cheaper than Cheshire - the next county/country over but the way it has increased over the past several years is a joke Apparently the increase in Assembly Members by over 50% will have another big impact on council tax when it happens ☹️ Just the way of it I'm afraid, they don't have ant money so want ours? Government pathway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 £1441 here in Dersingham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Just had mine 2k This we are band C. I live in a block of 4 terraces and we have 3 different bands between us. B, C & D! How does that work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Council tax band F here in Bristol. With the increase it’s going to be £3,553+ next year. Just under £300 a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, ditchman said: £1441 here in Dersingham Slightly better here , just outside of Yarmouth in a nice quite area , in band b it is £1283.02 , I don't know where they got the 02p from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) 37 minutes ago, marsh man said: Slightly better here , just outside of Yarmouth in a nice quite area , in band b it is £1283.02 , I don't know where they got the 02p from im band C............i wonder what Charlie 3 pays 1/2 mile up the road ?..................band z ? Edited March 15 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 (edited) 8 hours ago, marsh man said: Slightly better here , just outside of Yarmouth in a nice quite area , in band b it is £1283.02 , I don't know where they got the 02p from That’s a much lower cost than my band B of £1,780! Also my house is probably only half the value of yours at £120,000.It’s ridiculous here,gone up from under £300 a year to £1780 in 30 years while wages have merely trebled! Edited March 16 by TOPGUN749 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Council tax band F here in Bristol. With the increase it’s going to be £3,553+ next year. Just under £300 a month. That must be about the dearest council in England! Band F here will be £3,305 here and that’s bad enough! House values are greater in Bristol though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 It’s a joke, we as individuals use the council services, whether we earn £15000 or £150000 we all use those services more or less to a equal extent (it could be argued the rich us them less), and we as individuals should pay equally, cannot conceivably see how it should be linked to the value of a property or to property at all. Some thing based on the electoral roll would be much fairer, it could be called a Poll Tax or something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Gloucester band C £1900, or £190 x 10 months, up 5% on 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 11 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: This we are band C. I live in a block of 4 terraces and we have 3 different bands between us. B, C & D! How does that work. Band D I am as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Council tax is like a lottery in many instances. We pay over 4.5k a year. Most of the time it seems like it's to have our bin emptied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, TOPGUN749 said: That’s a much lower cost than my band B of £1,780! Also my house is probably only half the value of yours at £120,000.It’s ridiculous here,gone up from under £300 a year to £1780 in 30 years while wages have merely trebled! I must add that me and Simon ( ditchman ) are both widowed and get a 25% discount on the council tax , before my discount it would have been £1710.69 , which would be very close to your's if you were not getting any discount , although you are virtually right with the value of the two houses in comparison . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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