Nublue 22 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) The Guardian's article, all the song birds are dissappearing, well the magpies killed the Blackbirds chicks, Dunnock chicks and the Robins eggs were all thrown out of the nest, all in the last to weeks, oh some ones cat every day is in the garden,must be globe warming? Get back to the Magpies they just seem to go around the gardens in a mob killing all and there's lot's of them. I wonder what the powers that be, answer will be? Edited April 25 by Nublue 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 blame Packham👍 yeh know,that tree hugging lefty do gooder and friend to all our feathered friends. UNLESS, you're a nice garden/woodland/field dwelling song bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 16 minutes ago, Nublue 22 said: The Guardian's article, all the song birds are dissappearing, well the magpies killed the Blackbirds chicks, Dunnock chicks and the Robins eggs were all thrown out of the nest, all in the last to weeks, oh some ones cat every day is in the garden,must be globe warming? Get back to the Magpies they just seem to go around the gardens in a mob killing all and there's lot's of them. I wonder what the powers that be, answer will be? If not climate change it will be Brexit. Just proves the looney left have no idea but will weaponize anything to what they consider their advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 22 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: If not climate change it will be Brexit. Just proves the looney left have no idea but will weaponize anything to what they consider their advantage. Oh and lead poisoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 We have loads of songbirds in our garden always have ,and have also had a Magpie nest next door every year raising 3 or 4 young ,the apocalyptical predation of song bird young or eggs appears to not happen near us .I suppose we just got lucky . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Been out today putting up squirrel feeders in area with over 200 nesting boxes also hoping for the return of the Redstarts which are due to arrive i have a very busy schedule infront of me also seen some nice Roe Bucks today all i want is some nice weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Packham as said woodsbeing felled for housing estates the list goes on but it’ll always be the shooters fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: Been out today putting up squirrel feeders in area with over 200 nesting boxes also hoping for the return of the Redstarts which are due to arrive i have a very busy schedule infront of me also seen some nice Roe Bucks today all i want is some nice weather Awesome Im trying to do the same with the boxes Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, holloway said: We have loads of songbirds in our garden always have ,and have also had a Magpie nest next door every year raising 3 or 4 young ,the apocalyptical predation of song bird young or eggs appears to not happen near us .I suppose we just got lucky . I guess you must be lucky, maybe you have vegan magpies ? I wish we had them here. Every year I witness the damage that magpies do to ALL nesting birds, but being in the middle of a concrete jungle, I am unable to do anything about their control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) Unfortunately we have quite a few rats that climb into the nests and take chicks Edited April 25 by yates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Cats are as bad as magpies they are killing them all year round adult birds not just chicks and fledglings in spring summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 43 minutes ago, Westley said: I guess you must be lucky, maybe you have vegan magpies ? I wish we had them here. Every year I witness the damage that magpies do to ALL nesting birds, but being in the middle of a concrete jungle, I am unable to do anything about their control. Oh don't get me wrong they do kill some ….its what Magpies do to live but nowhere near what the cats do though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) Not just cats and magpies https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/carnage-on-the-carriageway-millions-of-birds-and-animals-die-each-year-on-britain-s-roads-can-the-death-toll-be-reduced-malcolm-smith-on-the-wildlife-holocaust-1384964.html 30-70million per year by cars (1994). Lots more cars on the roads these days. A newer article suggests 194m across Europe. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/01/weve-covered-huge-swathes-of-the-uk-in-tarmac-how-roads-affect-birds-aoe Edited April 25 by GingerCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Can we please not drag this into a cat hating thread. I know it hasn’t yet but we will be 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 i remember the 1960 something "silent spring"..........it was the kick up the **** to the farming industry to stop using DDT based products.............luckerly....DDT became outlawed (not in France tho).....and within a couple of short years..the songbirds recovered Magpies are on the increase....a few years ago me and my mate were walking back from pigeon shooting and passed a large silver birch wood in the marshes.......it was starting to get dark andthe birds were coming into roost.....we have never seen so many magpies in one place...there must have been at least a couple of hundred you can imajine the damage they have done during the nesting season the problem needs to be rectified now not down the road when it is too late.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, shaun4860 said: Can we please not drag this into a cat hating thread. I know it hasn’t yet but we will be 👀 It is not a "cat hating thread" is is a fact that cats kill millions of songbirds every year. Check out Songbird Survival (please) to which I subscribe and their investigations with the universities. https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/ Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 12 hours ago, jall25 said: Awesome Im trying to do the same with the boxes Rim Fire Well done and good luck we also got three Ospreys platforms hoping they will use one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 As others do, provide plenty of nest boxes and feeding stations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Don't forget the squirrels impact on birds eggs . They can get everywhere and seem to live every where too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 I wonder how many people have read the article. It questions what has occurred recently to cause the decline, and while it does suggest that recent extreme weather may have had an effect it is not a rant about global warming. It does suggest ways in which we can all help. My couple of acres of England has lost among other things bullfinch, swallow, mistle thrush, a colony of tree sparrows and breeding turtle doves in the last thirty years and I find it heart breaking. Oh and the article is written by Tony Juniper, who is Chair of Natural England. He really doesn't have many answers. Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Yep ! This one is even mimicking me 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 14 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Been out today putting up squirrel feeders in area with over 200 nesting boxes also hoping for the return of the Redstarts which are due to arrive i have a very busy schedule infront of me also seen some nice Roe Bucks today all i want is some nice weather Great news, I was out checking feeders last night at 11pm 🤣🤣 it's not a coincidence that where I shoot there are lots of birds 😁 41 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Don't forget the squirrels impact on birds eggs . They can get everywhere and seem to live every where too . Not where I am, unfortunately the cats and magpies are another issue, we'll see several cats every day going through or along the garden, I'd get another dog just to keep them out, there's only so many times you can chase them out. Magpies are everywhere around us, I know I can shoot them, but they don't tend to hang around or give safe shots, between cats and magpies the chicks have a very tough time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Shot Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 15 hours ago, Nublue 22 said: Get back to the Magpies they just seem to go around the gardens in a mob killing all and there's lot's of them. I wonder what the powers that be, answer will be? Before I replaced the old and overgrown Cherry Laurel hedge in my garden I had planned to leave it over spring summer for any nesting birds to be done and fledged. I didn't need to as one morning a group of 5-6 magpies systematically worked their way down the hedge forcing parents off the nests and eating any eggs or chicks. They wiped out the entire 30m of hedge in a few hours. The hedge has since been replaced with a natural hedge formed of Beech, Hawthorn, blackthorn, hornbeam and hazel and a good number of bird boxes of varying types placed around the garden to make up while the new hedge matures. There is a lane that runs past the end of my property that goes on for a mile or so and is lined with ivy covered matured oaks. They are almost perfect for nesting birds with a lot of thick cover woven into the branches and on walking up there yesterday and I don't think I can recall a spring where I've seen more destroyed eggs laying on the ground that have clearly been predated before they could hatch. I do my best with the squirrels that visit our garden with traps and an air rifle but my hands are tied with magpies as I live in Wales and those lunatics in NRW saw it best to remove the shooting of magpies under GL 004. We also have plenty of semi feral cats which must also have a devastating effect on the bird life locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 I also think a lot could have to do with lack of food like insects . When I first started driving 30+ years ago I remember having to regularly clean my windscreen of hundreds of squashed insects. Don’t do it now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Poor Shot said: hedge in my garden I had planned to leave it over spring summer for any nesting birds to be done and fledged. I didn't need to as one morning a group of 5-6 magpies systematically worked their way down the hedge forcing parents off the nests and eating any eggs or chicks. Similarly we have a long privet 35m and the robbers are Crows. Sadly hedge is only 5-10 m from road so no chance of protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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