ditchman Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 34 minutes ago, mellors said: I doubt we'll see farage canvassing round jaywick 😊 i would lay serious money that he is going canvassing in Jaywick People often mention Proportinal representation come election time...............if that was adopted Parliament would become the biggest most complicated cluster **** in the world (just after Germany) every time you wanted to pass a law you would have to do deals with scumbags../...socielists.....comunists...weirdos...perverts. far right ...far left.....far out parties...... christ it would be desperate........it would only work if there was someone like Hitler who wiped out people he didnt like......... ...............HHHHmmmmmmmmmm...that might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 29 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said: i do hate bad mathematics 👍 he only took 17.5 million of us for mugs according to you😉 if they'd have done what they promised they wouldn't be trying to swim in guano now 👍 And there's the rub, Tories totally **** Brexit because euro MP's were coining it in, Farage forced the exit but the limp wristed Torys made a complete mockery of the whole thing, if they had spent less time bending over to receive their bloated pay cheques and more time being patriotic we would not be in the mire that we now find ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, claydodger said: Having spent another few hours in hospital today I had the chance to speak to several nursing staff how they felt about the current situation within the NHS, the answer I got was "please don't vote conservative" I hope you pointed out the absolute mess and damage the labour party have caused to the nhs in Wales, they make the tories look like amateurs when it comes to mucking up the nhs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, welsh1 said: I hope you pointed out the absolute mess and damage the labour party have caused to the nhs in Wales, they make the tories look like amateurs when it comes to mucking up the nhs. correct me if im wrong ..but i heard somewhere that over 45 % of people in hostpital should be in a nursing home...thats something that used to happen a long time ago..... if the govt would refund the nursing homes that would go someway to sorting the NHS out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 24 minutes ago, ditchman said: correct me if im wrong ..but i heard somewhere that over 45 % of people in hostpital should be in a nursing home...thats something that used to happen a long time ago..... if the govt would refund the nursing homes that would go someway to sorting the NHS out more to the point all the liars and cheats in Westminster should be jail and the majority of the house of lords should be in a nursing home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claydodger Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 34 minutes ago, welsh1 said: I hope you pointed out the absolute mess and damage the labour party have caused to the nhs in Wales, they make the tories look like amateurs when it comes to mucking up the nhs. No, I only ever thank them for the work they do and the care they have given me especially over the last ten years, why it was brought up today I can't answer, but something has got to be done before the NHS is destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 (edited) 8 hours ago, oowee said: None of the parties have set out a clear believable plan on controlling migration although they have some ideas. Farage is setting an even higher target of zero, but with even less content as to how it will be achieved. Reform has set out the policies, leave the ECHR, reduce visa's and escort illegal immigrants back to where they came from. Farage is doing nothing of the sort, Reform Uk has been calling out the NetZero immigration nonsense since it started......more straight out lies....... Edited June 4 by Stonepark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 nice of clacton to welcome fraud farage with a few drinks let’s hope it’s on video! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 35 minutes ago, clangerman said: nice of clacton to welcome fraud farage with a few drinks let’s hope it’s on video! lol Bit strange being happy about a politician being assaulted while campaigning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 36 minutes ago, clangerman said: nice of clacton to welcome fraud farage with a few drinks let’s hope it’s on video! lol I hope she gets jail time. 42 minutes ago, Stonepark said: Reform has set out the policies, leave the ECHR, reduce visa's and escort illegal immigrants back to where they came from. Farage is doing nothing of the sort, Reform Uk has been calling out the NetZero immigration nonsense since it started......more straight out lies....... Withdrawal from external moderation is the actions of Fico and Orban. Restriction of legal rights. Control of press. Restriction of liberties is all part of the same process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, claydodger said: No, I only ever thank them for the work they do and the care they have given me especially over the last ten years, why it was brought up today I can't answer, but something has got to be done before the NHS is destroyed. Well I don't thank them. Not when some time ago an NHS hospital in Wales left my 84 year old father who'd just had a stroke on a chair in a corridor for 48hrs and missed the opportunity to give stroke reversing drugs, he died not long after. 4 minutes ago, oowee said: I hope she gets jail time. 👏👏👏Couldn't agree more, I don't care what side of a debate people are on, that behaviour is simply wrong and could lead to the vile actions of the disgusting individuals that carried out the attacks on people like Jo Coxs and David Amess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, clangerman said: nice of clacton to welcome fraud farage with a few drinks let’s hope it’s on video! lol that could have been acid, would you still be ending your post with, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claydodger Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: Well I don't thank them. Not when some time ago an NHS hospital in Wales left my 84 year old father who'd just had a stroke on a chair in a corridor for 48hrs and missed the opportunity to give stroke reversing drugs, he died not long after. 👏👏👏Couldn't agree more, I don't care what side of a debate people are on, that behaviour is simply wrong and could lead to the vile actions of the disgusting individuals that carried out the attacks on people like Jo Coxs and David Amess. I didn't imply that the system was perfect but in my case had it not been for them I would have died 10 years ago, I can only offer my condolences for your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 4 hours ago, old'un said: that could have been acid, would you still be ending your post with, LOL. Totally agree. Even Nigel Farage said it was scary at the time not knowing what had been thrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 On 04/06/2024 at 16:48, Yellow Bear said: This sums up the problem for any party except Lieboor. B liar filled the upper ranks with his sycophants and made it virtually impossible to remove them, added to which they only promote those that toe the line. Exactly, plus the judiciary loaded with Cherie's cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 Labour party formed in 1900 and not in power until over 20 years later but that was in a very different media era. Whether I see a Reform government in my lifetime is difficult to assess but I am getting the same sort of feedback from folk I speak to as during the brexit vote so I expect Reform to get a lot of votes from the rural community who cannot stomach voting Conservative this time round. This will probably not result in very many seats this election but in 5 years time if they get 20+ seats then maybe history will repeat itself. At the very least I do not consider a vote for Reform to be wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 On 04/06/2024 at 09:07, 100milesaway said: This is an election that will be won by all the lazy stay at home voters and I hope reform will be targeting these useless specimens that shout a lot and do nothing. That I believe is over 60% of the public lets hope that someone in reform has picked up on this as that is an awful lot of apathetic folks just waiting to be pointed in the right direction. From Auntie. Well said, anyone that doesn’t vote can’t complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 6 Author Report Share Posted June 6 On 04/06/2024 at 18:34, mellors said: I doubt we'll see farage canvassing round jaywick 😊 Would anyone want to to go THERE!! Should be bulldozed into the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 6 Author Report Share Posted June 6 On 04/06/2024 at 21:39, oowee said: Restriction of legal rights. Control of press. Restriction of liberties is all part of the same process. Which from where I am sitting the Left are either doing or attempting across pretty much the whole of the Anglosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1gun Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 Well one thing is very very clear, we can't go on listening to the same old dodgy rhetoric from either of the main two parties, So radical change is needed, however is it going to be very difficult, but there this thing called "Hope" we just need lots of it, where there hope, there's a chance. I know where my votes going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Penelope said: Which from where I am sitting the Left are either doing or attempting across pretty much the whole of the Anglosphere. 🤣🤣 you did not watch the debate between Starman and Sunny? Starman stick with Churchills plan and ECHR maintain standards. Sunny ditch Churchills plan and become a pharia state leave ECHR. Its a slippery slope championed by, Fico, Orban, Trump. Why not have a foreign agents law too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 6 Author Report Share Posted June 6 33 minutes ago, oowee said: Its an up hill climb championed by, Fico, Orban, Trump. Corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 30 minutes ago, oowee said: 🤣🤣 you did not watch the debate between Starman and Sunny? Starman stick with Churchills plan and ECHR maintain standards. Sunny ditch Churchills plan and become a pharia state leave ECHR. Its a slippery slope championed by, Fico, Orban, Trump. Why not have a foreign agents law too? seriously? you wanna get your head from up your rectum and have a butchers what's going on in the rest of Europe that's had enough of the left wing, European super state,open borders policy politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 44 minutes ago, oowee said: you did not watch the debate between Starman and Sunny? Awww hell no. In as much as they'll tell you their *actual* policies, you can't get a fag paper between them.. 44 minutes ago, oowee said: Starman stick with Churchills plan and ECHR maintain standards. Sunny ditch Churchills plan and become a pharia state leave ECHR. Maintain whose standards, exactly? Most of the other nations in the ECHR just ignore their rulings. Are those 'pharia states' too? At least leaving the ECHR would be less hypocritical, despite much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the chattering classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 It won't stop with leaving. Already the torieshave cut legal aid budgets making it almost impossible for Mr average to get legal redress. There are proposals to control the press. Control the unions, remove the right to strike. Step by step. 5 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: seriously? you wanna get your head from up your rectum and have a butchers what's going on in the rest of Europe that's had enough of the left wing, European super state,open borders policy politics. Can't deal with the argument 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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