zipdog Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 (edited) . Edited August 26 by zipdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Just the three stabbings today - so far… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 The next time we want to protest about something, maybe we should call it a "carnival" and then everything will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 I hope all the nasty people with knives are in court in the next week. https://www.aol.co.uk/woman-stabbed-notting-hill-carnival-224429831.html Come on TWO TIER KIER, get this sorted pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I hope all the nasty people with knives are in court in the next week. https://www.aol.co.uk/woman-stabbed-notting-hill-carnival-224429831.html Come on TWO TIER KIER, get this sorted pronto. 90 arrests have been made, I wonder how many will be up in front of the courts and how will have their faces and sentences plastered all over the news?….https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4geznqv7d9o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Has the Councillor who insighted cutting throats. Been charged. Yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 9 hours ago, johnphilip said: Has the Councillor who insighted cutting throats. Been charged. Yet . Remanded until Sept 6th I believe, two tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 31 minutes ago, twenty said: Remanded until Sept 6th I believe, two tier. So much for the 24 hours court's. Two tier as you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 it appears to me and I suspect a lot more on here and in the population in general,that it depends on the ethnic makeup as to the robustness of the policing deployed in mass gatherings like the one taking place now😡😡😡 you have to wonder if it's because of the fact that the "indigenous" population don't necessarily kick off at the drop of a hat. i can only assume that this might not be the case if this "policing" agenda keeps escalating 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 24 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said: you have to wonder if it's because of the fact that the "indigenous" population don't necessarily kick off at the drop of a hat. Someone from the police said on the radio today that they have to decide if its safe for the police to make an arrest, imagine that, not acting because their outnumbered or know It'll kick off, might as well not be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mice! said: Someone from the police said on the radio today that they have to decide if its safe for the police to make an arrest, imagine that, not acting because their outnumbered or know It'll kick off, might as well not be there. It is far less volatile to pick up the offenders later, as in the previous disturbances. It takes a minimum of two Officers to carry out an arrest, even if things go well and the remainder behave, that is still 2 Officers and 1 vehicle, with driver, out of the game for a few hours. Multiply that by the 90 who were arrested and you get an idea of just how thin the blue line can be. Edited August 26 by Westley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Just now, Westley said: It is far less volatile to pick up the offenders later, as in the previous disturbances. It takes a minimum of two Officers to carry out an arrest, even if things go well and the remainder behave, that is still 2 Officers and 1 vehicle, with driver, out of the game for a few hours. Fair points, however, do they actually do this. I have my doubts in cases where non whites are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 8 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Fair points, however, do they actually do this. I have my doubts in cases where non whites are involved. I am sure that race does not enter into the equation. IF sufficient evidence is there, then the CPS will prosecute. It just seems more difficult to get the CPS to take a case to trial, unless there is a 99% chance of a conviction. Hence all of the guilty pleas to lesser offences, as in the recent riots. Even a Judge asked why the CPS were not pushing to charge with riot, as opposed to disorderly behaviour ? Trials cost money, guilty pleas are cheaper ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 26 Author Report Share Posted August 26 I wonder how keen Sad **** kahn would be to allow a British culture festival in london ? Not very i would guess but i bet there would be less trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 26 Author Report Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, Westley said: I am sure that race does not enter into the equation. IF sufficient evidence is there, then the CPS will prosecute. It just seems more difficult to get the CPS to take a case to trial, unless there is a 99% chance of a conviction. Hence all of the guilty pleas to lesser offences, as in the recent riots. Even a Judge asked why the CPS were not pushing to charge with riot, as opposed to disorderly behaviour ? Trials cost money, guilty pleas are cheaper ! Not saying this is absolutely true but the Nando’s incident with the Muslim hitting the waitress in the face with the plate supposedly the police were on the scene but didn’t even take his name at the time? Apparently there was a mistake and now they are looking for him supposedly. Smacks of double standards to me . If it’s true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Westley said: I am sure that race does not enter into the equation. IF sufficient evidence is there, then the CPS will prosecute. It just seems more difficult to get the CPS to take a case to trial, unless there is a 99% chance of a conviction. Hence all of the guilty pleas to lesser offences, as in the recent riots. Even a Judge asked why the CPS were not pushing to charge with riot, as opposed to disorderly behaviour ? Trials cost money, guilty pleas are cheaper ! The Manchester Airport duo have not even been charged despite being filmed assaulting the Police, race absolutely enters the equation!! Lets see how many of the people arrested at Notting Hill are in Prison in 24 hrs like people posting on Twitter during the protests! Edited August 26 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 7 hours ago, B686 said: Not saying this is absolutely true but the Nando’s incident with the Muslim hitting the waitress in the face with the plate supposedly the police were on the scene but didn’t even take his name at the time? Apparently there was a mistake and now they are looking for him supposedly. Smacks of double standards to me . If it’s true? DOUBLE standards or TWO Tiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 (edited) With regards to my comment about race, if there is insufficient evidence, then there will be no prosecution, REGARDLESS of race ! You can not blame the Police for that. Remember, most of those at Notting Hill wore masks, knowing that CCTV would play a big part in later identifying offenders. ALL of those arrested, charged and now in prison from the last lot of riots, entered guilty pleas. Those pleading'not guilty' are on remand, awaiting trial. Hence my comment regarding plea bargaining. "Plead guilty to disorderly behaviour (which carries a lesser sentence than riot) and you will get a reduced sentence", 30 months in prison being the average sentence. I suspect that the Manchester Airport jobs (both, in fact), have a lot more going on than we know about. You can not charge someone, then keep them on remand, pending trial, unless they are likely to do a runner, or pose a threat to others. If it does not meet that criteria, they have to be bailed. Edited August 27 by Westley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 (edited) On 26/08/2024 at 02:08, Flashman said: Just the three stabbings today - so far… That's just people exercising their cultural heritage It's up to eight now Edited August 27 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Eight stabbings, an acid attack plus a couple of firearms seized and over 300 arrests, numerous police injured, sounds like it was great success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 On 24/08/2024 at 10:59, yickdaz said: Was he a white native who pushed a postal worker on to a live train track narrowly missed by a train coming to the station Was it a white native who stabbed multiple kids at a dance class Was it a white native who stabbed a solider outside a barracks Was it a white native who stabbed multiple people in Germany I can go on but I think everyone gets the picture Apparently the powers that be Don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 On 23/08/2024 at 16:34, TIGHTCHOKE said: Of course not, we in this country are outnumbered by the non whites, those that were not born here and worst of all those who want to invite everybody in to share what we once had. Not yet, but it is predicted at current birth rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 11 hours ago, Westley said: It is far less volatile to pick up the offenders later, as in the previous disturbances. It takes a minimum of two Officers to carry out an arrest, even if things go well and the remainder behave, that is still 2 Officers and 1 vehicle, with driver, out of the game for a few hours. Multiply that by the 90 who were arrested and you get an idea of just how thin the blue line can be. I can understand what your saying but... 27 minutes ago, Westley said: Remember, most of those at Notting Hill wore masks, So making an identification later is going to be very difficult and unlikely. 15 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Eight stabbings, an acid attack plus a couple of firearms seized and over 300 arrests, numerous police injured, sounds like it was great success! Yet it goes ahead every year?? That right there should be enough to say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 On 23/08/2024 at 22:00, oowee said: Why? Because they are black? I suggest because of their culture not the colour of their skins. Black Street Culture is rife with violence, crime, drugs and real misogyny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 On 24/08/2024 at 14:26, Mungler said: Like the purge but set to steel bands. I like that; very apt. On 25/08/2024 at 11:03, 12gauge82 said: So why are there not the same problems at Glastonbury festival, is there no opportunity to commit crime there? Different demographic, as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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