Here we go(license increase)

[grahamch]

Pushed through using a Statutory Instrument without debate or scrutiny, typically arrogant of the socialist scum were have in power and it will only get worse

[Dougy]

So the departments receives double what they did prior to the increase to license holders, if the department does not show a significant improvement will anyone be held accountable for under performing, and questions ask where the money is being spent. 

 

 

[Scully]

12 minutes ago, Dougy said:

So the departments receives double what they did prior to the increase to license holders, if the department does not show a significant improvement will anyone be held accountable for under performing, and questions ask where the money is being spent. 

 

 

There’s no one to hold them to account unfortunately. We’ll just have to suck up any lack of improvement, as usual. 

[Newbie to this]

14 minutes ago, Dougy said:

So the departments receives double what they did prior to the increase to license holders, if the department does not show a significant improvement will anyone be held accountable for under performing, and questions ask where the money is being spent. 

 

 

No

[Rim Fire]

Just had this sent me can anyone  confirm it

[Conor O'Gorman]

28 minutes ago, Rim Fire said:

Just had this sent me can anyone  confirm it

Correct. Direct link here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/circular-0012025-firearms-variation-of-fees-order-2025/circular-0012025-firearms-variation-of-fees-order-2025

 

[enfieldspares]

And yet no-Tory nor no-Reform MP laid a "prayer" against this? Which is a parliamentary procedure to nullify such a way to impose an increase? Surely there must be some still in the House of Commons or maybe now the House of Lords who enjoyed the hospitality of any of the many many driven days at Catton Hall paid for by BASC that might do so?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02569/

Edited Wednesday at 21:20 by enfieldspares

[Red carp]

12 hours ago, grahamch said:

Pushed through using a Statutory Instrument without debate or scrutiny, typically arrogant of the socialist scum were have in power and it will only get worse

👍

Edited Thursday at 07:08 by Red carp

[ShootingEgg]

Not as bad a hike for renewals as I was expecting but it's a nail added to the coffin for anyone looking to apply. Especially with the current "service and speed" of the grants. 

I'm not surprised they just pushed this through. And I will assume that no org will have a hope to challenge it. Done deal with no way of debate. 

[Downforce]

What no public consultation?

13 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

Correct.

So will the concept of covering the cost of the extra FEOs and Firearms Licensing Department result in a service where you know how long its going to take to get a variation or renewal ?

Possibly because theres fewer people that can afford it but I would like to think that all the extra money would go to that purpose and be ringfenced with SLAs and SLGs to the applicant!

In fact if there was a standard £75 renewal and a fast track option that cost twice the amount of £150 but it had a service level guarantee of 4 weeks or something - I would personally pay the extra to get the service as long as it wasnt negative to those that took the standard route.

D 

Edited Thursday at 10:30 by Downforce

[clangerman]

next time we hear an mp supports shooting we now know it’s a lie! 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

4 minutes ago, clangerman said:

next time we hear an mp supports shooting we now know it’s a lie! 

Everything thing that comes out of most MP's mouths is a lie.

[Rim Fire]

4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Everything thing that comes out of most MP's mouths is a lie.

Now that's the truth 👍

[Fisheruk]

15 hours ago, Rim Fire said:

Just had this sent me can anyone  confirm it

That’s manageable 

[BobbyH]

£126 for a 5 year renewal!?

I know it’s a price increase and all that, but that’s not half has bad as the £400 price that was being thrown about!

Unless I have missed something 🤣

[Fil]

4 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

£126 for a 5 year renewal!?

I know it’s a price increase and all that, but that’s not half has bad as the £400 price that was being thrown about!

Unless I have missed something 🤣

And considering it's been 50 for an iceage. It's the reasons they publicly give that burns me though. 

[Newbie to this]

11 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

£126 for a 5 year renewal!?

I know it’s a price increase and all that, but that’s not half has bad as the £400 price that was being thrown about!

Unless I have missed something 🤣

That's why £400 was being thrown about, so when it goes up by over 100 odd % it doesn't seem so bad, because it is still far less than £400...........

[Fil]

21 hours ago, old'un said:

Looks like RFD have been hit hard, gone from £200 3yrs to £466 3yrs, will we see more shutting up shop?

And they only last three years. I have been campaigning to get them in line with section 1 and 2 certificates to the 5 year period but it falls on deaf ears. 

[Fil]

18 hours ago, Scully said:

There’s no one to hold them to account unfortunately. We’ll just have to suck up any lack of improvement, as usual. 

You the certificate holder brings them to account. I'm sick of hearing people telling me they have been waiting months but don't like to say anything in case the feo gets offended and puts their application to the bottom of the pile. Uh uh. No. You are paying for a service, and at least as of Feb. you ARE paying for a service so hold them to account or nothing will get better. Be polite. Be respectful. But do hold them to account. Don't be afraid or it gets worse. As a gunmaker/gunsmith who's livelihood goes on stop when my RFD has run out because they are busy, I politely ask, "who do I send the invoice to for all lost revenue until I receive my certificate?" It soon appears. 

[enfieldspares]

2 hours ago, clangerman said:

next time we hear an mp supports shooting we now know it’s a lie! 

But how do you know when an MP is lying? Oh yes. You can see their lips moving.

[clangerman]

15 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

But how do you know when an MP is lying? Oh yes. You can see their lips moving.

you nailed it just look at the wonderful “change” cabbage voters have given us now lol 

[Conor O'Gorman]

3 hours ago, Downforce said:

What no public consultation?

So will the concept of covering the cost of the extra FEOs and Firearms Licensing Department result in a service where you know how long its going to take to get a variation or renewal ?

Possibly because theres fewer people that can afford it but I would like to think that all the extra money would go to that purpose and be ringfenced with SLAs and SLGs to the applicant!

In fact if there was a standard £75 renewal and a fast track option that cost twice the amount of £150 but it had a service level guarantee of 4 weeks or something - I would personally pay the extra to get the service as long as it wasnt negative to those that took the standard route.

D 

Not likely as things stand. The government claims the fee increase will fund system improvements, but this is misleading. Firearms licensing fees are paid into general police budgets and are not ringfenced for the licensing system. Successive governments have failed to guarantee that licensing fees will go into the system and the government has no power to enforce its wishes in matters of operational independence, such as police budgeting. More on BASC's initial response to the announcement is here:

https://basc.org.uk/basc-condemns-proposed-firearms-fees-hike-as-a-threat-to-public-safety/

More updates will follow.

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

BASC update:

https://basc.org.uk/rural-livelihoods-at-risk-due-to-firearms-fees-hike-says-basc/
 

 

[enfieldspares]

I note that the cost of Explosives Certificates (the work of issuing which is done in many forces by the same department that issues RFDs, FACs and SGCs) for commercial firework or explosive manufacturers and/or vendors has not changed?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

6 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

I note that the cost of Explosives Certificates (the work of issuing which is done in many forces by the same department that issues RFDs, FACs and SGCs) for commercial firework or explosive manufacturers and/or vendors has not changed?

Shhhhhh! They might have missed that one.