Flashman Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The vote will be delayed until after the EVEL changes, so the Sweaties can't affect the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) New development! Ah 'Pipped at the Post" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33520547 Edited July 14, 2015 by STOTTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Just listening to the BBC news. The Fox Hunting vote has been delayed. Sounds as though they are going to wait until the changes are made to stop Nicola Sturgeon and her crew from interfering south of the border. Now listening to a guy from LACS who is recommending Lamping at night as the best way to control Foxes. What next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) So the SNP fell into the trap. They promised not to vote on England only matters then reneged. Cameron will grind them into the dust over the course of this Parliament and they will not get half of what they are demanding. Edited July 14, 2015 by JDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Country Sports in Scotland are in peril with the majority of the population living and voting within the Central Belt. Sturgeon is evil as far as I am concerned, unfortunately she is also clever playing the class card in her land reform proposals. Unfortunately while the general voting public will know that angling is a popular pastime throughout Scotland, few will be aware that shooting is now indulged in by everyone from dustman to duke. I dont suppose the Sturgeon or any of her Politburo have ever set foot on a shooting field or have any direct experience of rural matters. See my PW post in Country Sports. Blackpowder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Vote Delayed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Just listening to the BBC news. The Fox Hunting vote has been delayed. Sounds as though they are going to wait until the changes are made to stop Nicola Sturgeon and her crew from interfering south of the border. Now listening to a guy from LACS who is recommending Lamping at night as the best way to control Foxes. What next They might even pay you and Lloydi to carry out your nocturnal activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Wot i don't understand is why the anti scots feeling?? The scots MP's have been voting aggainst any tory government for 50 odd years really no change apart from there colour on the badge Wot's the difference wether it's the SNP voting agganst it (when u till now not usually voted on english only matters) or when scotland had 40-50+ labour mps that would vote on everything towing the party line, but that was ok?? Even if the majority of eng voted tory For wot it's worth i think it would be a massive mistake for the SNP to vote aggainst it for all the reasons highlighted abov, it is total hypocricy but at the same time they are now trying to say scotland bneeds brought into line with the english 'unworkable' law, bloody crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Country Sports in Scotland are in peril with the majority of the population living and voting within the Central Belt. Sturgeon is evil as far as I am concerned, unfortunately she is also clever playing the class card in her land reform proposals. Unfortunately while the general voting public will know that angling is a popular pastime throughout Scotland, few will be aware that shooting is now indulged in by everyone from dustman to duke. I dont suppose the Sturgeon or any of her Politburo have ever set foot on a shooting field or have any direct experience of rural matters. See my PW post in Country Sports. Blackpowder. Someone ought to add up the economic benefits fishing, shooting and hunting bring to Scotland and dump it on Jimmy Krankie's desk. Historically a lot of this is "foriegn" money from the English. I can see this changing. Edited July 14, 2015 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 VOTE HAS BEEN SUSPENDED NI LIGHT OF THE SNP'S DECISION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Wot i don't understand is why the anti scots feeling?? The scots MP's have been voting aggainst any tory government for 50 odd years really no change apart from there colour on the badge Devolution has meant that many powers have been devolved to the Scottish and Welsh parliament, they decide on local laws and policies for local people. English / Welsh / Northern Irish MP's have no say in what gets passed hence Scotland ended up with airgun licencing. When laws and policies are decided on that effect England only, Scottish, Welsh and NI MP's can vote and influence the decision. This can never be right in a devolved union, the SNP seem to want to have the cake and stuff it. It's not anti normal Scottish person, but the quest for freedom has brought a lot of resentment from south of the border and the SNP trying to derail Westminster will only bring more. Personally as a fellow Celt I feel sorrow for the direction that Scotland is heading. Edited July 14, 2015 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Indeed, I personally think it's a very clever ruse, whichever way the vote goes it's a win, either hunting wins or politics win because the SNP will receive a slapping down Nothing thick about your reply to the comment, rather well said actually Job done. They are so far up their own importance they couldnt resist and DC has snared them,great move indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 What ill-humoured, immutable, irreverent, intellectually- void, imbecilic, inexplicable ignorance. Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The SNP have badly misjudged this issue, now Westminster will feel justified in making life very difficult for them, they have proven they are not to be trusted (reneged on their promises not to vote on purely English matters) have no regard for democracy (despite public opposition bought in air gun Licencing) and their word is worthless, I can't see Cameron rushing to give Scotland more devolved powers now.......and the losers in the politics game? As usual the (Scottish) people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Livefast but thats my point entirely why have u been happy for scottish labour voters to vote against bills like this for the last 50 years?. Wots the differnce wether mp's wear a red rose or a yellow tick thing either way they will be voting against it, u possibly have more chance of the SNP not voting against it if they see sense and realise the damage it will cause. But mibee they want to cause the damage?? I said the day after the referendum Cameron has played an absolute blinder, his morning afer speech was genius althou a kick in the balls to scots, this english vote thing even labour are against it as it will severely hamper them in the future should they ever recover in scotland. Wouldnae surprise me if as someone said earier DC has done this on purpose to get SNP to show its true colours and help his EVEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 What ill-humoured, immutable, irreverent, intellectually- void, imbecilic, inexplicable ignorance. Why? Explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The vote has been scrapped for now: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/plans-to-relax-fox-hunting-ban-could-be-delayed-after-snp-vows-to-oppose-move-in-war-against-cameron-10387217.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Livefast but thats my point entirely why have u been happy for scottish labour voters to vote against bills like this for the last 50 years?. Wots the differnce wether mp's wear a red rose or a yellow tick thing either way they will be voting against it, u possibly have more chance of the SNP not voting against it if they see sense and realise the damage it will cause. But mibee they want to cause the damage?? During the last 50 years when the playing field was level and Scottish MPs could vote on English bills and English MPs could vote on Scottish bills etc things worked well as generally everybody knew that what they did during voting would be returned. Enter devolution, now English MPs cannot vote on any of the devolved powers in England and Wales yet Scottish and Welsh MPs retain full voting rights on bills that only effect England. This cannot be right or fair. I have no doubt that the SNP are still reeling from the referendum defeat and they want to cause as much disruption as they can in Westminster. They said that they would not vote on English matters and have decided to turncoat showing DC that they are completely untrustworthy (for MPs...) and now they are going to reap the rewards, to the detriment of Scotland and it's people. They need to remember that the Scottish people had their say in the referendum, do they honestly think their approach is going to win them friends and benefit Scotland, they should move on. Our MPs have far more impotent issues to sort out at the moment like getting the UK back on it's feet. Labour would support a three headed snake if it promised a return to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Why? Explain Priceless. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Priceless. :lol: Why Edited July 14, 2015 by yates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Why? Explain Probably because in your first sentence you showed your ignorance of the subject. Then topped it off to show for you its all about class hatred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yes hasn't it been a great game? And at what cost? If the Torys actually gave a dam and wanted to win the vote they could have! But I don't believe they actually do want to win it as they are giving a free vote (not a whip in sight) Also the current rules allow the SNP to vote on English issues so why shouldn't they? It's up to Camaron to get on and sort it out!!! So pull your finger out man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yes hasn't it been a great game? And at what cost? If the Torys actually gave a dam and wanted to win the vote they could have! But I don't believe they actually do want to win it as they are giving a free vote (not a whip in sight) Also the current rules allow the SNP to vote on English issues so why shouldn't they? It's up to Camaron to get on and sort it out!!! So pull your finger out man! Think he's just been given 'just cause' can can't slap em down for no reason but now the SNP have shown their true colours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The vote will be delayed until after the EVEL changes, so the Sweaties can't affect the decision. bit of a stupid comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Probably because in your first sentence you showed your ignorance of the subject. Then topped it off to show for you its all about class hatred. I can't believe that something as unimportant as fox hunting is debated so early after an election. Why is something than means so little to the general population being discussed before the more important issues that face us everyday. Fox hunting is a minority activity, would it have been up for debate now if any other party had got in. I think not. It has very little to do with class hatred actually, more to my belief .!@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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