Buckingham palace to get 369m revamp

[Duckandswing]

I have a penchant for Princess Eugenie.

[fortune]

I think that £369 million will just be a start. From that which I saw on the news last night the place looked like it was going to fall down. I'm surprised that the powers that be have allowed the building to get into the state that it has. A little while ago there was a programme about the white house and how that got in such a state that it was likely to collapse and fall down in 1948 to the point that president Harry Truman had to move out and a complete gutting and internal rebuild took place between 1948 and 1952. The money is small in comparison to a lot of things that we do and it is a state asset not a personal possession of the Queen or the Royal family. They are just the non paying resident employees.

[crowdie2013]

I have a penchant for Princess Eugenie.

You is sick my friend- she's a total minger.

There's a home video of her doing the rounds online.

[powler]

We mugs can't let it fall down and if I'm sure it would deteriorate even more and cost a lot more to repair. I'm all for Queen and country.

[Dekers]

I'm with the majority here, I don't have a problem with it.

 

Just the same I expect the costs to be twice that at least by the time its done!

[Duckandswing]

You is sick my friend- she's a total minger.

There's a home video of her doing the rounds online.

Show me the video....oooooh errrr

[fortune]

You is sick my friend- she's a total minger.

There's a home video of her doing the rounds online.

That's a bit harsh. Why be nasty to the girl? She is no different to anyone else and should not be verbally abused for personal amusement.

[ditchman]

what swung it was the queens toilet fell off the wall..............it is not reported if her madge was on it at the time.......what a strange place to put a toilet..........well they are different to us..

[crowdie2013]

That's a bit harsh. Why be nasty to the girl? She is no different to anyone else and should not be verbally abused for personal amusement.

I'm sure she'll no read this........

Too busy jet setting on free holidays paid for by you and I

[Twistedsanity]

Civil list from the govt. to the Royal family is something like £30M pa, income from the Crown Estates to the govt. is something like £300M pa.

 

1st revamp in 50 years. Looks like the govt. is quids in.

Not when you factor in all the free unquantifiable security they get, I think a recent estimate was somewhere between. 3 and £4,000,000,000 pa to look after her firm

[AVB]

Not when you factor in all the free unquantifiable security they get, I think a recent estimate was somewhere between. 3 and £4,000,000,000 pa to look after her firm

£4 billion per year. I know police overtime is expensive but I doubt that much.

[fortune]

If HM's pan has fallen off of the wall, what is she having to use now and into the future? A galvanised bucket? And does Phil use the racing post or the field torn up into squares and hung up on a nail or tied up on a bit of string to wipe the Royal rudder?

 

I'm sure she'll no read this........

Too busy jet setting on free holidays paid for by you and I

Yeah I suppose so. I wouldn't mind jetting off to somewhere warm and sunny.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Not when you factor in all the free unquantifiable security they get, I think a recent estimate was somewhere between. 3 and £4,000,000,000 pa to look after her firm

 

If it is "unquantifiable" how did you manage to reach that figure?

[Scully]

 

If it is "unquantifiable" how did you manage to reach that figure?

A man after my own heart! 😀

[Catamong]

The fabric of the building is in a dreadful state, it has been for years, I priced some building work there back in the 90's the main slated roof was leaking like a sieve, slates missing everywhere, flashings falling off the walls.

 

I asked the guy who was showing me around how they allowed it to get into such a state, he said they only have a fixed budget for Royal Building repairs every year and due to unforeseen extra costs on a contract to underpin the walls of Windsor Castle, there was no money in the pot.

 

One area of the roof had been re-slated fairly recently, the guy told me that Prince Philip spent a day up on the roof helping the roofers, he also carved his initials on one if the slates.

 

With a proper programme of planned maintenance, massive "one off " repair programmes like this can be avoided, it's cheaper in the long run..!

 

Cat

[TIGHTCHOKE]

The fabric of the building is in a dreadful state, it has been for years, I priced some building work there back in the 90's the main slated roof was leaking like a sieve, slates missing everywhere, flashings falling off the walls.

 

I asked the guy who was showing me around how they allowed it to get into such a state, he said they only have a fixed budget for Royal Building repairs every year and due to unforeseen extra costs on a contract to underpin the walls of Windsor Castle, there was no money in the pot.

 

One area of the roof had been re-slated fairly recently, the guy told me that Prince Philip spent a day up on the roof helping the roofers, he also carved his initials on one if the slates.

 

With a proper programme of planned maintenance, massive "one off " repair programmes like this can be avoided, it's cheaper in the long run..!

 

Cat

 

Ain't that the truth!

 

Unfortunately that just doesn't seem to be the current viewpoint amongst the purseholders!

[four-wheel-drive]

I do not get why people complain about spending money on repairing buck house or the houses of parliament both of these places bring in millions of people and pound notes what do people want to do turn this country into a slum.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

I do not get why people complain about spending money on repairing buck house or the houses of parliament both of these places bring in millions of people and pound notes what do people want to do turn this country into a slum.

 

A lot of them want to turn this country in to a republic!

[Yellow Bear]

a one party "socialist " republic at that

[Whatmuff]

I have to disagree and think that the renovation costs should come from the Royal estate. I love the Queen and the Royal Family and her being my boss and all but how can the leader of a nation, one of the wealthiest land owners in the world worth an estimated 58 Billion ask the tax payer to foot the bill for electrics and plumbing on one of their homes. It just doesn't sit right. Having seen all of the royal estate and inside most of the property's I can tell you their contents are priceless. She found a pair of paintings in one of the Windsor rooms, they were a pair of van Dyke worth 250 million. She could sell an item from the collection to fund the refurb. Why should that money come from the tax payer? When the fire service/police/NHS/Armed Forces are on their knees and hard working families are struggling to pay bills. The palace estate management should have seen this coming and budgeted along way back.

[Cannon]

For £369 million you could have over 3000 citizens of the country housed in houses costing £120,000. You could have proper housing built for those who served in the armed forces and received debilitating injuries doing so. Instead they come back home from warzones and must beg and rely on charitable handouts to get by. What a way to say thank you eh? Or you could improve the condition of the roads. Let's be honest, they are without doubt amongst the worst of any current European country.

 

Millions of pounds are brought in each year through tourism, but millions of pounds are spent each year on the royal family. The tourism money doesnt all go back into the country either, so you cannot categorically confirm that the country is X% better off because of the royal family. No amount of number crunching will give you an accurate figure of money retained by the country in relation to royal tourism.

 

If you were a royal (which is a man made thing that someone decided to make up one day in order to elevate themselves above their peers. No doubt as a result of the bad aspects of human nature), you would be laughing every day at the mugs who support you.

 

How about you all bow down to me and send me some of your hard earned cash because I am now declaring myself a King. Oh it doesn't work like that? Well I think you'll find that's exactly how it worked all those years ago, and you're now paying out of your own pockets to keep these spongers in a far more comfortable state of living than everybody in the country will ever experience.

Edited November 20, 2016 by Cannon

[Adge Cutler]

 

Ain't that the truth!

 

Unfortunately that just doesn't seem to be the current viewpoint amongst the purseholders!

Whilst that is true in principle even the planned maintenance cost of grade 1 listed buildings like B P runs into millions per annum.

 

Sometimes its better and more economical to have a major overhaul every 25 - 50 years and tender the works to specialist contractors.

[four-wheel-drive]

 

A lot of them want to turn this country in to a republic!

That would be me once dear old Queenie had poped her clog but that does not mean that we have to trash all of our historic buildings look at what the French did chopped of there heads but they still kept all of the beautiful buildings for the people to go and look at.

 

As for the houses of parliament I think that it should be restored and put to other uses museum posh apartments and a big posh hotel we could then have a new government complex built with flats for the MPs and a new Parliament built to fit the computer age what is it with voting lobbies it takes half and hour do do a vote which should take seconds if they just had buttons to press.

 

If the Scots and Welsh can have modern buildings why when we have the most MPs have our MPs got to work in a bloody museum with interest rates so low there will never be a better time to do it but that would take logic and I am afraid that there is not much of that in this country.

Edited November 20, 2016 by four-wheel-drive

[yod dropper]

Royal income vs. expenditure. The treasury is quids in.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/8499943/How-Civil-List-reform-will-affect-the-Royal-family.html

 

Not sure why so many people say they cost us money. Perhaps it's time to return the Crown Estates and let them pay their way for private (not state) matters. They'd be smiling all the way to the bank.

Edited November 20, 2016 by yod dropper

[four-wheel-drive]

For £369 million you could have over 3000 citizens of the country housed in houses costing £120,000. You could have proper housing built for those who served in the armed forces and received debilitating injuries doing so. Instead they come back home from warzones and must beg and rely on charitable handouts to get by. What a way to say thank you eh? Or you could improve the condition of the roads. Let's be honest, they are without doubt amongst the worst of any current European country.

 

Millions of pounds are brought in each year through tourism, but millions of pounds are spent each year on the royal family. The tourism money doesnt all go back into the country either, so you cannot categorically confirm that the country is X% better off because of the royal family. No amount of number crunching will give you an accurate figure of money retained by the country in relation to royal tourism.

 

If you were a royal (which is a man made thing that someone decided to make up one day in order to elevate themselves above their peers. No doubt as a result of the bad aspects of human nature), you would be laughing every day at the mugs who support you.

 

How about you all bow down to me and send me some of your hard earned cash because I am now declaring myself a King. Oh it doesn't work like that? Well I think you'll find that's exactly how it worked all those years ago, and you're now paying out of your own pockets to keep these spongers in a far more comfortable state of living than everybody in the country will ever experience.

There is one problem with building lots of new houses for all of the people that need affordable homes if you build to many houses the value of most peoples house on here will drop and for those with buy to rent the rents would go down so do not expect there to be any rush to build lots of new homes there are just to many vested intrests who like things just the way that they are.