Vince Green Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 There should be a 'clean and tidy' clause in a standard Shorthand Tenancy Agreement. You are getting into opinions now, dangerous territory. Just take the money and don't look at the mess. Evict her and the next one could be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 It ain't a new phenomenon either. My old job took me into places which would make your hair curl. Had to go in and measure up a flat in Kingstanding back in the early 80s once, where there had been a murder. You could smell the place three floors down. The main lounge floor was almost impossible to walk around due to dog doo doo everywhere. They are about still, I am afraid and unfortunately anyone looking for rentals is a likely type .... not all but the good ones are in the minority. Hope you get it sorted satisfactorily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 You can put on the contract that on the tenancy terminating the contract by either themselves or via notice from that landlord that the property is professionaly cleaned. And the cost is a fixed amount as a basic clean or additional costs of above and beyond a normal clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 We had some scruffy tenants, on inspection it were a right tip,they got the proper legal notice the day after, its my 80k investment i want it looking after as best as. We told them any funny bisiness, slow timing or missed rent= No reference. Still had to fully redecorate and carpet and it cost a few bob and 3 weeks without tenant. Got a decent single parent in now.Its partly our own fault for not inspecting more frequently. So you have either to turn a blind eye or get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 vince, you are mistaken in thinking its a freedom of choice issue, its an issue of someone inflicting their anti-social filth, on another unsuspecting person who was letting them use their home. It costs nothing to be clean, decent and tidy, just a bit of effort and principles. Finding a tenant that pays the rent is hard enough, finding one that keeps the place clean is even harder. One of my companies started to do end of tenancy cleans for letting agents a few years back. We didn't stick at it very long before we gave it up and branched out in a different direction, its a disgusting job. A lot of the tenants were professional people including medical staff from Northwick Park Hospital because that was what one of the letting agents did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 what does your tenancy agreement say?Also did she know you were inspecting?tread carefully.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 As long as she has it back how it should be when the tenancy is over, I can't see a problem. Yea I get that too, but it's horrible when someone disrespects your property, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 as I say, I am no landlord, but it is a sad state of affairs, if you are that selfish, that you cant clean up a rental before you vacate, it also sounds terrible, that it almost seems a miracle to receive any rent, glad its not an investment option for me. my brother bought a place a dozen years ago in spain, he said at the time, he would never ever rent it out, I dident believe him and thought he would, but to his credit, he never has, its like brand new still, even smells it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Like I say it wasn't a scheduled inspection she asked me to fix a door handle so I said I'd call round the next day.. I'm going to send her a formal inspection letter in 2 months giving her 2 weeks notice that I'll be coming round, if it's still in the same state or worse I'll formally ask her to leave and use her deposit to get a cleaning company in and give her the balance on what's left...I think that's fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I have been into a few houses where you wiped your feet on the way out. The worst was a cellar with a dog and a big litter of pups that had never seen the light of day, when she opened the cellar door the terrible smell hit me and I threw up. Another one the old boy who lived there had been throwing his ashes from the fire into the cellar for donkeys years and they were piled up nearly to the ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 My better half lives in a complete mess, always cleans up properly when it is time to move though. If its not causing damage to the place I would be inclined to ignore it. You cant just turf her out and get a cleaner in, you may find you give notice and the place is handed over in as moved in condition bar wear and tear in which case the whole deposit is hers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 For probably in excess of 16k P/A a complete re decorate of a 3 bed house would be probably be at tops £2000.00. (Paint) Professionaly cleaned without extras I would say less than 500. If she pays the rent on time then that's a good thing, she just needs to get the cleaning sorted and of you use a management company get them to "manage" it. If it's diy then you manage it. If it were me I would suggest she either pays for a cleaning or she does it herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 My Ex girlfriends son was renting in lower early, every 6 month they were visited by the agent, who would check the house over! Basically if the house is dirty etc they have to clean it to their satisfaction in a set period. If not, their renewal will be refused! He and his housemate are VERY tidy, and the agent couldn't believe the gardens and interior of the house were BETTER than when they took out the tenancy. But if the agent had standards like that! Perhaps you could insist on the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just ask her nicely to have a clean up? That's what I'd do. I'd even help her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Don't really see a problem except she lives her life differently to you. Lots of people live like that, ask anyone who's job takes them into other people's houses. As long as she pays the rent its just one of those things +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Don't really see a problem except she lives her life differently to you. Lots of people live like that, ask anyone who's job takes them into other people's houses. As long as she pays the rent its just one of those things The point is some people actually have a life the idea of spending most of her free time washing and polishing your house is up to here I tend to be a bit like that if I am not expecting anyone to come and see me I will not bother doing any housework I just give the place a good clean every now and then. I really hate going into a house proud persons home you just sit there afraid to do or touch anything that is no way to live my place can be a tip at times but with a bit of elbow grease it soon scrubs up think yourself lucky she is paying your rent and not really damaging anything best not to poke your nose in where is does not belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Don't really see a problem except she lives her life differently to you. Lots of people live like that, ask anyone who's job takes them into other people's houses. As long as she pays the rent its just one of those things What he says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 It's easy to be judgemental about how others live. She's clearly busy as the op states. I agree with 4wd. I doubt those berating her live alone, run three shops and do all the cleaning themselves. Yet she should be served notice for not hoovering or cleaning the bathroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I'd be interested in hearing Vinces list of dirty professionals 😂 I was the accommodation warden last year for my second year of uni (covered the rent) and the dirtiest ones you would ever get were the posh middle class type white girls. Have grown up having mummy and daddy or their cleaner doing all the cleaning, taking the bins out etc. They were a right mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 A builder friend of mine bought a house down the road to do up and got me in to see the state of it. No plaster on the walls, hall bannister rail gone, no ceiling roof or floorboards in the back bedroom, partial boarding in the main bedroom and a gaping hole where the loft hatch should have been. There was also a massive flea infestation and it transpired that the state of the main bedroom floor was due to dog urine having rotted it through. The whole place stank so badly it made you gag. The previous owners had young children and she was a nationally known dog groomer who had apparently been on TV shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) A builder friend of mine bought a house down the road to do up and got me in to see the state of it. No plaster on the walls, hall bannister rail gone, no ceiling roof or floorboards in the back bedroom, partial boarding in the main bedroom and a gaping hole where the loft hatch should have been. There was also a massive flea infestation and it transpired that the state of the main bedroom floor was due to dog urine having rotted it through. The whole place stank so badly it made you gag. The previous owners had young children and she was a nationally known dog groomer who had apparently been on TV shows. having worked in1000s of houses over the years one of the worst and also one i was compelled to report to social services was a Dr. and a radiographer ............absolute hovel, dirty people come from all walks of life Edited February 9, 2017 by Winston72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 having worked in1000s of houses over the years one of the worst and also onei was compelled to report to social services was a Dr. and a radiographer ............absolute hovel, dirty people come from all walks of life Funny I remember hearing very similar, 1 one a consultant and his wife was a surgeon. The house needed gutting after they left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I have been a Tennant and landlord and been lucky with both, it seems strange the place being a tip if she knew you were coming round, when we got our house back as the Tennant was moving on for a longer lease it looked tired as they had been in there three years. People often don't look after rentals as you would if it was yours, I wouldn't leave it two months before sending a letter, does an agent manage the property as in they contact you if something needs fixing? Your quite within your rights to ask the agent to have a word about the condition of the property Good luck Mice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 The point is some people actually have a life the idea of spending most of her free time washing and polishing your house is up to here I tend to be a bit like that if I am not expecting anyone to come and see me I will not bother doing any housework I just give the place a good clean every now and then. I really hate going into a house proud persons home you just sit there afraid to do or touch anything that is no way to live my place can be a tip at times but with a bit of elbow grease it soon scrubs up think yourself lucky she is paying your rent and not really damaging anything best not to poke your nose in where is does not belong. Totally agree. I'd hate to here what some posters would make of my home. Muddy boots and the odd lamb in the kitchen, straw on the sitting room floor and my hairy wife in the bed........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Don't really see a problem except she lives her life differently to you. Lots of people live like that, ask anyone who's job takes them into other people's houses. As long as she pays the rent its just one of those things IMO when the dirt starts to stain the walls, floors and surfaces to the point where they need repairing/replacing then it does become a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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