krugerandsmith Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Like: Main thing is freedom, we never had that... belonging, we are working for the same, common goal as Europe. What would I change: gun laws, less corruption and bureaucracy, more freedom on state level decisions. What I cannot understand is how sane people in this country fail to see ...... How corrupt and deliberately unaccountable this European shower really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 hello, i am fed up with E U nationals coming and living in our British Islands telling us how to run our country, before the brexit election i was given a earfull by a young man on why the UK is better off staying in, guess what he was Italian, one of the most corrupt countries we know,, Do we go to France Germany Poland or Hungary or ? or ? or ? and tell them how to run theirs NO NO NO, rant over time for another cuppa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Savmhr... A really great post, thank you. It sure beats me how so many British voters cannot see through the EU commissariat's charade and its' ultimate objectives. Oh wait a moment.... they did vote for Blair, et al..... Incorporate as many new supporters/voters by immigration and treat the proles like mushrooms..... say no more.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Savmhr... A really great post, thank you. It sure beats me how so many British voters cannot see through the EU commissariat's charade and its' ultimate objectives. Oh wait a moment.... they did vote for Blair, et al..... Incorporate as many new supporters/voters by immigration and treat the proles like mushrooms..... say no more.! The conservatives did nothing to close the mass immigration door. Mass immigration has more to do with globalism than simply importing voters. Theresa May was complicit as Home Secretary and now as Prime Minister. We may have voted for Brexit, but unfortunately we still have the same PC liberal multiculturalists in power. Theresa May is now showing her; or who ever pulls her strings, true colours over Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 hello, i am fed up with E U nationals coming and living in our British Islands telling us how to run our country, before the brexit election i was given a earfull by a young man on why the UK is better off staying in, guess what he was Italian, one of the most corrupt countries we know,, Do we go to France Germany Poland or Hungary or ? or ? or ? and tell them how to run theirs NO NO NO, rant over time for another cuppa I believe that by now the UK is my country too, so I can have a say in what's going on here. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I believe that by now the UK is my country too, so I can have a say in what's going on here. Regards Only if you get citizenship. then you too can VOTE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Only if you get citizenship. then you too can VOTE! Agreed. If you like the country that much and intend to stay then become a British Citizen. Likewise all those British expats in Spain moaning about Brexit. If you love Spain that much then become Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) I hear there is a powerful group of Labour MP's pressing the leadership to reverse the decision to leave the EU single market and the customs union.....more drip, drip, drip.....towards remain? Interesting to see what comes out of the Labour conference 2017! It may be my conspiracy theory at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the political classes from all parties are conspiring with the banks, big business and other remainers to slow down, stall and frustrate Brexit until such time that it's so messed up......they can get the decision reversed! Edited September 24, 2017 by panoma1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I hear there is a powerful group of Labour MP's pressing the leadership to reverse the decision to leave the EU single market and the customs union.....more drip, drip, drip.....towards remain? Interesting to see what comes out of the Labour conference 2017! It may be my conspiracy theory at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the political classes from all parties are conspiring with the banks, big business and other remainers to slow down, stall and frustrate Brexit until such time that it's so messed up......they can get the decision reversed! Ever wondered why there is only 1 monopolies commision.......Just saying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I hear there is a powerful group of Labour MP's pressing the leadership to reverse the decision to leave the EU single market and the customs union.....more drip, drip, drip.....towards remain? Interesting to see what comes out of the Labour conference 2017! It may be my conspiracy theory at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the political classes from all parties are conspiring with the banks, big business and other remainers to slow down, stall and frustrate Brexit until such time that it's so messed up......they can get the decision reversed! If the Labour party ever get into power - we may need the EU yet ...... to bail us out. They will totally bankrupt the country and we will be like Greece - dependant on German handouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 First off Mossberg ,you are a Hungarian citizen living in the UK, as there is no state or country of the EU , you cannot really be an EU citizen,you can be European if you wish to call yourself that. If you no longer want to be Hungarian, apply for UK citizenship, youve been here long enough for there to be no issue with that. Secondly, you are not a 'remainer' as you are not a UK citizen, you could not vote in the referendum (I hope) you are someone who would like to remain in the UK after we (eventually) leave, again no issue with that, you are a working man ,who has benefitted this country. Ms May is not your elected leader, as you could not vote for her, in fact non of the electorate voted for her. What they did vote for, was to leave the EU, its her job to make that happen, without dragging her heels, without paying stupid divorce 'bills' and without a watered down version of what the people voted for. The Federal socialist state of Europe is the dream of people like Junker and Barnier, they dont want nations, or cultural identities, any sort of pride in your race or heritage. They dont really want it to be a democracy either, imagine the type of communist dictatorship Hungary used to have, with a government of elites, secret police, shortages and crushing poverty ? Thats what they are aspiring to, for every country in Europe. I wont vote for that you say ? You wont get the chance ! I keep asking the question, how did we get to this point, where a trading bloc are telling us what to do ,politically, culturally and legally ? A bloc who didnt even write in an exit plan for countries wanting to leave them within their constitution. They are going to do it by stealth, bit by bit, until its too late to stop them. Thats what you are supporting, a pathway back to the dark days of Eastern Europe in the 50 s and 60 s. A broken economy propping up poor and failing nations, a broken currency, totally uncontrolled immigration from outside Europe, rampant political correctness causing hate and suspicion. There is no peace and prosperity in that path. Brilliantly put 100% true. Unfortunately the present day populace has been reared on 'nanny state' will look after you, you will never ever lose/fail, ever. My wife was a judge in a 'badge' competition for Brownies, two or three of the thirty or so taking part did not work hard enough, failed to do what was needed and consequently my wife failed them. The Head Brownie went ballistic, they all had to win a badge whatever. What happens to these youngsters when they get into the real world? Consequently the younger generation in particular see the formation of the EU as a big 'Nanny' who will see to their needs for ever more. Witness the vote for Corbyn recently when he made some totally false promise to do away with students fees and forget about all those running at the present time. Blindly these youngsters believed every word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I hear there is a powerful group of Labour MP's pressing the leadership to reverse the decision to leave the EU single market and the customs union.....more drip, drip, drip.....towards remain? Interesting to see what comes out of the Labour conference 2017! It may be my conspiracy theory at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the political classes from all parties are conspiring with the banks, big business and other remainers to slow down, stall and frustrate Brexit until such time that it's so messed up......they can get the decision reversed! That's the time for a hard Brexit then...(no deal better than a bad deal)...that will show May's true colours.. For some reason I'm not holding my breath......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Drip, drip, drip.........now the traitor Clegg is suggesting the leave vote is falling away because the oldies who voted to leave are dying off and the young who voted to remain will win the day next time! He believes any Brexit deal the Goverment strikes with the EU will be rejected by parliament.............and could pave the way for another referendum leading to the UK staying in the EU! Edited September 24, 2017 by panoma1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) A50 is in and Parliament voted for it or have they forgotten that little detail. Clegg's nauseating opinion is a total irrelevance. Edited September 24, 2017 by JRDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Drip, drip, drip.........now the traitor Clegg is suggesting the leave vote is falling away because the oldies who voted to leave are dying off and the young who voted to remain will win the day next time! He believes any Brexit deal the Goverment strikes with the EU will be rejected by parliament.............and could pave the way for another referendum leading to the UK staying in the EU! Clegg always wanted an EU job. One of the few bits of good sense the EU has shown has been not to give him one. Happily no one listens to him, although the BBC are always keen to give him air time, no doubt generously lining his wallet at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 On Licence Payers fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Both Clegg and Bliar should keep out of it neather of them have been elected. They represent no one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Clegg always wanted an EU job. One of the few bits of good sense the EU has shown has been not to give him one. Happily no one listens to him, although the BBC are always keen to give him air time, no doubt generously lining his wallet at the same time. I'm afraid people do listen to such misinformation! If someone says something enough times it becomes true to the inexperienced and gullible, look at the support Packham et al have garnered, from the ignorant and gullible off social and other media, for posting deliberate misinformation relating to driven Grouse shooting and the outrageous and deliberately untrue claim, that the decline of Lapwing numbers is due to shooters shooting them!.........And if you believe the RSPB and Raptor Persecution Scotland every report of a missing Hen Harrier or other Raptor is down to them being shot by gamekeepers mostly on grouse moors.... Do not underestimate the power of misinformation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Drip, drip, drip.........now the traitor Clegg is suggesting the leave vote is falling away because the oldies who voted to leave are dying off and the young who voted to remain will win the day next time! He believes any Brexit deal the Goverment strikes with the EU will be rejected by parliament.............and could pave the way for another referendum leading to the UK staying in the EU! Not holding my breath but fingers are crossed. That boat in the med could still be mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 If the Labour party ever get into power - we may need the EU yet ...... to bail us out. They will totally bankrupt the country and we will be like Greece - dependant on German handouts. Which is exactly where they want us........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Examples from my family's history for a communist dictatorship (which are I believe not true about the EU): For being a land owner (100ha), grandfather 2yrs prison, great grandfather beaten to death in prison, all land/house/everything confestigated/nationalised, other grandfather still POW in the Urals 2 yrs after the war ended (5yrs in total from Stalingrad), elections 1 candidate only, living in fear, black listed for life, no freedom of speech, etc. Any of these happening now? What type of Dictatorship is it when there are NO elections? Like the Un-elected EU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Drip, drip, drip.........now the traitor Clegg is suggesting the leave vote is falling away because the oldies who voted to leave are dying off and the young who voted to remain will win the day next time! He believes any Brexit deal the Goverment strikes with the EU will be rejected by parliament.............and could pave the way for another referendum leading to the UK staying in the EU! And he is right as I have already stated on this forum the longer they drag this out the less chance of us leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Not holding my breath but fingers are crossed. That boat in the med could still be mine. Ha ha ,your boat in the med would be hijacked by traffickers 'migrating' people from Africa, because the EU cant even police their own borders (or dont want to) You would be putting your life on the line, but keep thinking the EU is following the golden path to peace and prosperity if you like. The reality is somewhat different, inner city ghettos, no go areas, economic destruction and civil unrest. 'Well that might not happen ?' It already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 hello, i can see this becoming an absolute shambles :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 It already is, why's it taken this long to get to this shower of dung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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