blackbird Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Mighty Ruler said: I think every young person I’ve seen on the BBC wants the government to show mercy, they should come to Newcastle under Lyme for a different opinion. My wife works in a school and the kids were going mad about the prospect of her returning. The BBC want to try & interview the parents of the dead kids that were blown to bits at the Ariana Grande concert & ask them if we should show mercy on this woman ? Edited February 15, 2019 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mighty Ruler said: She’s got to get here first. I hope that proves difficult without government assistance. Somehow I think she will get all the assistance she requires! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Don't worry, she will shortly be welcomed back to this sceptered isle, and benefits will be bestowed upon her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, das said: Don't worry, she will shortly be welcomed back to this sceptered isle, and benefits will be bestowed upon her. And the Times will have paid for it just to spite the current government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Sha Bu Le said: If the authorities can give new IDs and locations and possibly plastic surgery to two convicted murderers they will do it for this person too. The British public may never find out she is back and living a comfortable life on the state (i.e. us lot). Won’t need plastic surgery as it’ll be dressed up like a post box... welcome also to her terrorist husband and also all her rehoused relatives that allowed and maybe encouraged her passage to terrorist heaven... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Should foreign criminals be deported back to their country of origin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 MM send an Eitheopian back to there country of birth so "respecting" their uman rights innit has a lot of merit in my eyes ,but how about allowing them to prove their willing to give up ISIS by removing their boobytraps .You know 12 months in ammo boots lifting minefields and then ,6 months reburying the corpses left on the battlefields of Iraq and Syria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 NO. She made her bed let her stay in it , 2 questions, would she have wanted to return if ISIS was still active, and if she liked SYRIA so much I,am sure ASSAD would willingly give her a passport . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, scouser said: I,am sure ASSAD would willingly give her a passport . It's the Syrians that want rid of her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 hours ago, das said: Don't worry, she will shortly be welcomed back to this sceptered isle, and benefits will be bestowed upon her. And most like some worthless rag of a tabloid shall pay her a large sum for her story. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 The arguement for letting IS members back into (in this case) the country of their birth, is that it's illegal under international law to render a person stateless by removing their citizenship.....well the people who joined Islamic State (IS) are not stateless! The clue is in the title.....they relinquished their national statehood to become a citizen of the Islamic State.........that their chosen state no longer exists is not I submit, our problem! So it is not the country of their birth making them stateless........they did that themselves! Why should they be allowed to rejoin the state they turned their back on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/231521 Not that it will make a difference. But it has gone from 20 odd thousand to 200 odd in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 285 000 now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 56 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: 285 000 now! Self & Mrs GC signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 285002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Signed. 292192 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: well the people who joined Islamic State (IS) are not stateless! The clue is in the title.....they relinquished their national statehood to become a citizen of the Islamic State.........that their chosen state no longer exists is not I submit, our problem! Exactly. Bit to sensible and logical for a politician to understand that. But this is exactly what these people and their families, who are demanding goverment help to get them home, should be told. Edited February 16, 2019 by JJsDad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, moondoggy said: Signed. 292192 now I may have missed something, but as this petition not already had its reading and response from the government on 27 Nov 2018? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, old'un said: I may have missed something, but as this petition not already had its reading and response from the government on 27 Nov 2018? I think the government give an initial response to the petition, when it reaches a certain point (number of signatories) but after 100,000 signatures the government considered the petition for debate..........this is where it is now.........at approaching 300,000 I imagine it will be accepted for debate, as it certainly needs the government to respond! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 295135 Keep sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: ....they relinquished their national statehood to become a citizen of the Islamic State...... The Islamic State never was, has been, or will be recognized as a 'state' by the international community.. So she cant be a citizen of it. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisman Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Done. Don't normally bother but!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, old'un said: I may have missed something, but as this petition not already had its reading and response from the government on 27 Nov 2018? 3 minutes ago, panoma1 said: I think the government give an initial response to the petition, when it reaches a certain point (number of signatories) but after 100,000 signatures the government considered the petition for debate..........this is where it is now.........at approaching 300,000 I imagine it will be accepted for debate, as it certainly needs the government to respond! They respond after it reaches 10000 signatures and will possibly debate after 100000 which it has only gone past in the last day or so. As panoma said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticle Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Also I've just seen this.. her dad doesn't seem to caring with a teddy when he's protesting with Anjem Choudary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Retsdon said: The Islamic State never was, has been, or will be recognized as a 'state' by the international community.. So she cant be a citizen of it. Next. By declaring a caliphate the leadership declared an Islamic STATE, and occupied its own territory, that the international community has, did or will not recognised it is neither here nor there....however briefly, it can't be denied it existed!...... There are those in the intenational community that do not recognise the state of Israel..........but has that stopped Israel existing as a state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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