ShootingEgg Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Auto response from NE feedback email. Thank you for contacting the team. Due to high volumes of complaints at present relating to the 3 general licences (GL04/05/06) for the control of wild birds there will be a delay in responding to you. Thank you for your feedback or complaint raised. We will respond to you in due course and sincerely appreciate your patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just had mine come through, nothing new there. On another note a Blackbird going mental in the garden and the wife has asked why, that will be a Magpie having a go at the nest, foul words and what you going to do about it. Well I've just found out that the grandchildrens Supersoaker move's them on quite nicely, as in accordance with the GL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 We all know what an untrustworthy rat Gove is just ask Boris Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoe Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, sam triple said: We all know what an untrustworthy rat Gove is just ask Boris Johnson And all the teachers when he was education secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 BASC chief executive gives latest update on general licenceshttps://basc.org.uk/blog/ne-general-licences/basc-chief-executive-gives-latest-update-on-general-licences/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, YANNIE said: What chance do we stand with these two in the same gang. I'm sorry to say but from that picture I would imagine that they both could be, but one of them in particular looks to be positively reptilian - I think it's the hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 new book coming out soon. guess the authour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin-till Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Received an email today from NE re the complaint I made concerning the shambolic dealings with the revocation of the GL  most unsatisfactory Complaints Response - General Licence.pdf Edited May 1, 2019 by martin-till Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, wymberley said: I'm sorry to say but from that picture I would imagine that they both could be, but one of them in particular looks to be positively reptilian - I think it's the hands. Both have very small hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, PPP said: Both have very small hands... That may be an optical illusion as both have very big heads 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanofselby Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Has anyone got their licence yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen tiger Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Can any one point me to the exact differences between General licenses issued by Scottish natural heritage and the welsh that sets them apart from the Old general license issued by Natural england. Edited May 1, 2019 by Fen tiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolo Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, PPP said: Both have very small hands... Certainly not the hands of people who work and are in touch with the land. Tweedledum and tweedledummer. Edited May 1, 2019 by Diabolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 I am very confused as NE apparently promised new general licences to conserve birds from crows and magpies from 29 April but I cannot find any such licences on the NE website. Have they been issued or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 So far only carrion Crow are on GL26. Nothing else has come forward as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul sullivan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Yea l think they meant 29th April 2020 at this rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Thank you. How disgraceful of NE but equally how characteristic. And beyond measure frustrating as I have discovered in our lane the nest to which magpies were taking blackbird fledglings from our garden, but of course can do nothing. Packham is a murderer of songbirds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside1000 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 The carrion crow specific licence was issued on Friday last week, this has since been scrutinised by BASC and found to be 'Unfit for purpose', although as far as I know it is still in force and to some extent usable. There was a vague promise to get a wood pigeon control licence out on Monday 29th but its possible that as a result of the very cold reception the carrion crow licence received NE reworded their announcement, which now reads they are working to issue a wood pigeon licence some time after the 29th, how long after no one knows, The licence's for magpies, jays,rooks,jackdaws and possibly some species of gulls is yet to be written and they (NE) can only state that these licence's will be issued in due course. Debbie from BASC is keeping us all informed as to any press releases concerning these new licence and there are regular updates on gov.uk and the BASC website. All we can do is wait and hope that common sense will prevail at some point and we can all get back to work.fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 You can still shoot to scare legally I believe, just make sure not to miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just read in the Telegraph that Gove is considering stripping NE of the power to issue the GLs. About time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 thats good things could be looking up, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry136 Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) Having read a lot of literature I have come across a point regarding mostly crows and magpies, but to a certain extent pigeons. Crows and magpies, besides being predators are also scavengers. Because of how we live, ie throwing out so much food, these birds have thrived on our left overs. Therefore the populations of these birds has been artificially increased. So it can be argued that due to the un-natural "surplus" of these birds, the levels need to be brought down to what would occur naturally if they weren't able to use us a a food source? Edited May 2, 2019 by Harry136 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 a little better news..https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/387653-basc-lays-bare-the-threats-posed-by-general-licence-chaos/page/2/#comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) Okay, I'll put this out there... When I was a kid, almost fifty years ago, you hardly saw a magpie or crow beside a road or on the hard shoulder. Then, as traffic levels grew and increasingly more of our wildlife became flattened, the population of magpies and carrion crows appeared to 'blossom'. So much so that I barely make any journey without noticing a family of magpies, or handfuls of carrion crows flitting around the hard shoulder, or risking life and wing to swoop down and peck at some random, flat, dead thing, every few hundred yards or so. So, who are the real villains in all of this? Edited May 2, 2019 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mighty Ruler said: Gove is considering stripping NE of the power to issue the GLs. I suppose it all depends on who is going to issue them? After all, they are all the same civil service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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