quentyn Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 i was surprised today to get an email advertising guided pigeon shooting for £1000 per day is that the most expensive or has someone seen higher ? given the expenses that game shooting has ( beaters, feed, pest control, game keeper) v's the costs that a pigeon guide has - how on earth do people justify these costs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Perhaps the pigeons are guided towards the guns. The cost is absurdly high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Sometimes we are our own worst enemy’s harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 if people will pay , then it they will charge it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 hello, are you sure its not a miss print and should be £100 a day, which is far to much anyway, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Most the farmers charge 50-75$ opening day and 25$ the rest of the season here. But we do have special events where guys take live dove and throw them at your gun. They can be pricey but it’s normally for charity or fund raising. I only hunt free public land unless I’m invited to a fundraiser or trip with me friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob525 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) I got the same email it's no joke, the avarage it says is 238 a day and it says the following ... The cost of a days shooting with us is £1000 per gun per day - however we align the success of the day with cartridges fired not bag and offer a refund of £3.35 per cartridge not fired up to a total of £1000.Min take out fee £250. Edited July 31, 2019 by Rob525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rob525 said: I got the same email it's no joke, the avarage it says is 238 a day and it says the following ... The cost of a days shooting with us is £1000 per gun per day - however we align the success of the day with cartridges fired not bag and offer a refund of £3.35 per cartridge not fired up to a total of £1000.Min take out fee £250. You lads should name and shame who’s offering it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Most the farmers charge 50-75$ opening day and 25$ the rest of the season here. But we do have special events where guys take live dove and throw them at your gun. They can be pricey but it’s normally for charity or fund raising. I only hunt free public land unless I’m invited to a fundraiser or trip with me friends. Live Dove, that was banned way back in the 1920's here. do you have favoured guns, I understand live pigeon guns were heavier, longer chambered in the old days, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroku_Dave Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 I worked at the Shooting venue in Woolwich during the Olympics in 2012 and became pally with a Jordanian Royal. We chatted about our favourite type of shooting and when i mentioned that i loved shooting Pigeon on the airfield at work he said he'd fly over in his jet and join me and i could pop over to Argentina and shoot doves with him! He seemed a bit offended when i declined and then i had to explain that no one has landed at Catterick Airfield for about 40 years and that 'popping' over to Argentina was probably a bit beyond my budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, islandgun said: Live Dove, that was banned way back in the 1920's here. do you have favoured guns, I understand live pigeon guns were heavier, longer chambered in the old days, Honestly, I always use my old mossburg 930 auto. Every year I buy a new Dove gun but the opening day I grab the 930 auto. I love short heavy over unders for clays and do well. But I keep going to the 930. It’s a 11 shot but we have to block it to 3 shells for dove. 24in barrel with fiber front sight. We can hunt pigeon and I do but we don’t have enough around my area to make a trip out. We just hit them while we are out hunting something else. Edited July 31, 2019 by NoBodyImportant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Cheap if its in south Africa and includes flights and accomodation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: But we do have special events where guys take live dove and throw them at your gun. They can be pricey but it’s normally for charity or fund raising. Would love to see Mr Packhams face if we did that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: You lads should name and shame who’s offering it! Why name and shame? If you look it another way guys that spend 000's on days pheasant shooting where the bag is say 450 across 9 guns, may see this as good value, plus how many miles does the guide drive, finding the birds and making sure the guns get the best chance to make the numbers, it all adds to the cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Wingman said: Would love to see Mr Packhams face if we did that! I hunted my whole life but I not really sure how I feel about it. They build a fort with hay bales in a field. Then you have guys in the fort releasing pigeon/ dove from a cage. The rich people stand on their pegs which completely circle the release point. It’s raises lots of money and the meat is supposedly never waisted. So I recon it’s no worse then buying chicken at a store. I would attend them if I was rich but I wouldn’t call it hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 13 hours ago, button said: Why name and shame? If you look it another way guys that spend 000's on days pheasant shooting where the bag is say 450 across 9 guns, may see this as good value, plus how many miles does the guide drive, finding the birds and making sure the guns get the best chance to make the numbers, it all adds to the cost Not sure you can compare this to driven shooting. Think of the costs involved, a gamekeeper, accommodation, buying poults or day olds feed, fuel, beaters, and time there is no comparison. A pigeon guide will drive around to find the birds and advertising. Simplistic in both cases but still chalk and cheese. £2500 I can fly to South Africa shoot at Speckled Pigeon an incredible sporting bird, 6 days shooting all inclusive in a luxury lodge including flights. I know where I am spending my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, rimfire4969 said: Not sure you can compare this to driven shooting. Think of the costs involved, a gamekeeper, accommodation, buying poults or day olds feed, fuel, beaters, and time there is no comparison. A pigeon guide will drive around to find the birds and advertising. Simplistic in both cases but still chalk and cheese. £2500 I can fly to South Africa shoot at Speckled Pigeon an incredible sporting bird, 6 days shooting all inclusive in a luxury lodge including flights. I know where I am spending my money. I would disagree, part of what you are paying for is the guides expertise, if it was so easy we would be all shooting bags of 200+ every time we go out Fully appreciate what you say about where you would spend your money but value for money is percieved by the individual, but what I was getting at, a big earner who enjoys their shooting and is used to pay 000's, they may see this as good value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, button said: I would disagree, part of what you are paying for is the guides expertise, if it was so easy we would be all shooting bags of 200+ every time we go out Fully appreciate what you say about where you would spend your money but value for money is percieved by the individual, but what I was getting at, a big earner who enjoys their shooting and is used to pay 000's, they may see this as good value I know of a few guys who pay £350 per day for good pigeon shooting where they use a guide and get bags of 100+. Not everyone can afford it or wants to do it but choice of the individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Not wishing to open a can of worms here, but with reference to the great deal of discussion about the terms of general licence recently. Is it actually legal to charge (or pay) for pigeon shooting? As far as I know, you can't shoot pigeons for sport (yes/no?) Edited August 1, 2019 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Vince Green said: Not wishing to open a can of worms here, but with reference to the great deal of discussion about the general licence recently. Is it actually legal to charge (or pay) for pigeon shooting? Paying the guide for his time and land and equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 For some good shooting why not. You pay your money and make your choice. It does make South Africa at £340 a day (6 days) including flights and parking an even better bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 49 minutes ago, oowee said: For some good shooting why not. You pay your money and make your choice. It does make South Africa at £340 a day (6 days) including flights and parking an even better bargain. SA is very good value for people. I used top pay £3500 per driven Boar trip to go on and now i spend 8 days in Limpopo relaxing i nthe sun, with luxury lodge, drinks and happy people hunting and shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, oowee said: For some good shooting why not. You pay your money and make your choice. It does make South Africa at £340 a day (6 days) including flights and parking an even better bargain. Looks like we will be going March next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 the one good thing which so nearly came out of the GL fiasco was the stopping of commercial pigeon shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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