Jacko3275 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Wow what a bat that was probably eclipsed his World Cup heroics sports personality of the year for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Agreed. Many commentators are saying that it was the greatest Test match innings of all time given the circumstances. Don't forget the monumental contribution from Jack Leach who scored one run out of a partnership of seventy six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, JDog said: Agreed. Many commentators are saying that it was the greatest Test match innings of all time given the circumstances. Don't forget the monumental contribution from Jack Leach who scored one run out of a partnership of seventy six. Yep he held his own out there to give stokes his chances and the one run kept the ashes alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Arise Sir Ben. That should not have been possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Blinking missed it ,I will have to watch the highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Truly unreal. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, muncher said: Blinking missed it ,I will have to watch the highlights. After the excitement of The Canaries v Chelsea yesterday it might have been too much for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, JDog said: After the excitement of The Canaries v Chelsea yesterday it might have been too much for you. i know Norwich lost......but i think the fans would have given them a good clap...at the end of the game....well done well tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Was a good game, and Chelsea were a bit better than us, so a fair result.😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Yep, fabulous innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, muncher said: Was a good game, and Chelsea were a bit better than us, so a fair result.😭 There were more goals at times going into the back of the net than pigeons into my decoys 😊, still I got a few in the hot sunshine and enjoyed listening to the game , I kept hearing someone getting excited when a goal went in , it wasn't Motty by any chance was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just watched the 5 minute highlights and wow! What an innings, what a player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 nobody has ever explained cricket rules to me, in out ,googlies etc 105 for 3 to name a few however I really enjoyed ben stuffing it to the ozzies I would really like someone to walk me through a game play for play / rules etc as many guys I have worked with over the years // say won from x overs so asked what it meant they could not explain the rules even while listening to the game on the radio on site / so am still confused 30yrs on, grew up in Ireland, Gaelic football / rugby / hurling / soccer / handball /golf etc cricket is just about as confusing as American football to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 I don't understand how you can have a draw.. A tye yes because the scores are the same but surely that's a draw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Saltings said: nobody has ever explained cricket rules to me, in out ,googlies etc 105 for 3 to name a few however I really enjoyed ben stuffing it to the ozzies I would really like someone to walk me through a game play for play / rules etc as many guys I have worked with over the years // say won from x overs so asked what it meant they could not explain the rules even while listening to the game on the radio on site / so am still confused 30yrs on, grew up in Ireland, Gaelic football / rugby / hurling / soccer / handball /golf etc cricket is just about as confusing as American football to me The basics are simple enough. Each team takes it in turn to either bat or field. But understand that there are basically two formats of the game - the traditional format and the limited overs format. In the traditional format, within the time available, ( 5 or 3 days for test and 1st class cricket) in order to win you need to a) score more runs than the opposition and b) take all the opposition's wickets (bowl them out). In other words you need to win both a fielding and a batting battle. However, in the limited overs format (an over is 6 balls bowled from one end) a team only needs to score more runs (the batting battle). Each team gets a specific number of overs to field/bat and at the finish the team with the most runs wins, regardless of how many wickets they take. The World Cup is limited over format and test match cricket is traditional format. And the two are akin to draughts and chess. As for the the 'in game' rules, they're the same in both formats and are mostly simple enough. *'Runs' are scored by the batsmen running to the other end and grounding their bats in a marked area. There's a batsman at either and and both have to run and cross on the way. A batsman is out if: - 1. the bowler knocks his stumps over. (out 'bowled') 2. a fielder catches a shot he hit before the ball touches the ground (out 'caught') 3. he fends a bowled ball off with his leg that would otherwise have hit the stumps ( out' LBW'). 4. A fielders can knock over the stumps while a batsman is running* and out of his marked area (out 'run out') 5. A fielder (usually the wicketkeeper) knocks a batsman's stumps (the three sticks) over and a batsman has both feet out the marked area while playing the ball. ( out 'stumped') And that's pretty much it. Your example of 105-3 means that a team has scored a 105 runs and lost 3 wickets ( 3 batsmen have come in been got out). A 'googly is a specific kind of delivery (a straight armed throw basically) . Of course like any game there are specific terms and field positions that need to be learned, and within the game there are lots of tactics and strategies that will only become apparent from time spent watching the game - just like rugby or whatever. The only thing is that traditional cricket undoubtedly has more of these variables. But I"d say that it's a game that's worth getting to know. Certainly for me at least, test cricket at its best is the absolute king of ball sports. Edited August 26, 2019 by Retsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, washerboy said: I don't understand how you can have a draw.. A draw doesn't occur in the limited overs format (see my previous post). But it's a common result in traditional cricket and it means that at close of play (the end of a time period - 5 days in a test match) a team still has wickets left, in other words it hasn't been bowled out. So for example, yesterday if England had still been batting at 6:30 but hadn't reached Australia's score they would have earned a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Retsdon said: A draw doesn't occur in the limited overs format (see my previous post). But it's a common result in traditional cricket and it means that at close of play (the end of a time period - 5 days in a test match) a team still has wickets left, in other words it hasn't been bowled out. So for example, yesterday if England had still been batting at 6:30 but hadn't reached Australia's score they would have earned a draw. I don’t think you are correct. It was scheduled to be a five day Test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, JDog said: I don’t think you are correct. It was scheduled to be a five day Test. You're correct of course. I forgot it was only day 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Saltings said: nobody has ever explained cricket rules to me, in out ,googlies etc 105 for 3 to name a few however I really enjoyed ben stuffing it to the ozzies I would really like someone to walk me through a game play for play / rules etc as many guys I have worked with over the years // say won from x overs so asked what it meant they could not explain the rules even while listening to the game on the radio on site / so am still confused 30yrs on, grew up in Ireland, Gaelic football / rugby / hurling / soccer / handball /golf etc cricket is just about as confusing as American football to me You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out. When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game! Clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, Retsdon said: The basics are simple enough. Each team takes it in turn to either bat or field. But understand that there are basically two formats of the game - the traditional format and the limited overs format. In the traditional format, within the time available, ( 5 or 3 days for test and 1st class cricket) in order to win you need to a) score more runs than the opposition and b) take all the opposition's wickets (bowl them out). In other words you need to win both a fielding and a batting battle. However, in the limited overs format (an over is 6 balls bowled from one end) a team only needs to score more runs (the batting battle). Each team gets a specific number of overs to field/bat and at the finish the team with the most runs wins, regardless of how many wickets they take. The World Cup is limited over format and test match cricket is traditional format. And the two are akin to draughts and chess. As for the the 'in game' rules, they're the same in both formats and are mostly simple enough. *'Runs' are scored by the batsmen running to the other end and grounding their bats in a marked area. There's a batsman at either and and both have to run and cross on the way. A batsman is out if: - 1. the bowler knocks his stumps over 2. a fielder catches a shot he hit before the ball touches the ground 3. he fends a bowled ball off with his leg that would otherwise have hit the stumps (LBW). 4. The fielders can knock over the stumps while a batsman is running* and out of his marked area (the 'crease') he will be out LBW (leg before wicket) And that's pretty much it. Your example of 105-3 means that a team has scored a 105 runs and lost 3 wickets ( 3 batsmen have come in been got out). A 'googly is a specific kind of delivery (a straight armed throw basically) . Of course like any game there are specific terms and field positions that need to be learned, and within the game there are lots of tactics and strategies that will only become apparent from time spent watching the game - just like rugby or whatever. The only thing is that traditional cricket undoubtedly has more of these variables. But I"d say that it's a game that's worth getting to know. Certainly for me at least, test cricket at its best is the absolute king of ball sports. That would be run out not LBW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, hawkeye said: That would be run out not LBW OK, thanks. Been editing and left bits in that should have come out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 What about the rule...when a batter has been give 'not out' lbw by the on field umpire, the fielding side ask for a review (a TV replay) and the result is the ball would have hit the wicket, but the ball did not pitch in line with the wicket......the batter is 'not out' because it is "umpires decision"....but when given 'out' by the on field umpire, the batter then asks for an lbw review (TV replay) which confirms the ball would have hit the wicket, the batter is dismissed irrespective of where the ball pitches? That aside, Stokes played a magnificent innings, rode his luck at times but brilliant! But let's not forget Jack Leach, he deserves massive credit too! Did anyone watch Botham's Ashes match winning innings, live in the 80's..........I hated cricket up until then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Stokes was incredible, as was Leach who done a great job at the other end. As one of the commentators said, three players of a generation who played some amazing Ashes cricket for England Botham 1981, Flintoff 2005 and Stokes 2019. I expect his IPL price has just gone through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 I wish the England team would just be consistantly useless, my brother is the one who loves cricket however he is also the one with a heart condition. Well played! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: What about the rule...when a batter has been give 'not out' lbw by the on field umpire, the fielding side ask for a review (a TV replay) and the result is the ball would have hit the wicket, but the ball did not pitch in line with the wicket......the batter is 'not out' because it is "umpires decision"....but when given 'out' by the on field umpire, the batter then asks for an lbw review (TV replay) which confirms the ball would have hit the wicket, the batter is dismissed irrespective of where the ball pitches? That aside, Stokes played a magnificent innings, rode his luck at times but brilliant! But let's not forget Jack Leach, he deserves massive credit too! Did anyone watch Botham's Ashes match winning innings, live in the 80's..........I hated cricket up until then! one of the best innings i have seen he took the aussies apart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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