ditchman Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 i am re-building and re guilding (24 carrot) a early victorian copy of a Louise 14th french chiming clock.....white marble and gold cherubs swags and outriggers.....but one of the cherubs hands is bust....its not bronze (like the original) it is a spelter or copperey type of pot metal........the break dosnt carry weight as the cherubs are bolted to the base... so what i intend to do is to drill it out ...put a steel shaft/pin in it ....and use some metal paste glue and lightly clamp it together WHAT GLUE PASTE DO I NEED..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 What about soldering it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Loctite 638 would hold it particully with a steel pin, not sure how it takes with a spelter type material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What about soldering it? not putting any heat near it....dont want to even try to solder it...pin it and glue using a metal paste....smooth it over and re-guild...... 13 minutes ago, JJsDad said: Loctite 638 would hold it particully with a steel pin, not sure how it takes with a spelter type material. the pin will be spayed out and the holes accordingly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Devcon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dougy said: Devcon ? is that the make cause i need to guggle it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 As Dougy said. Defcon putty or one of the liquid metals. Defcon is good and I have used it for bedding rifles but its not cheap and obtaining a small qty might prove difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Your certainly turn you hand to many different projects Simon 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 If your gilding it over then god old J&B will hold that no problem. Probably stronger than the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Epoxy resin. Most of the Devcon products are epoxy resin based with additives. Edited December 13, 2019 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I’d second the epoxy resin , works with anything I’ve mended even porous materials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Devcon liquid steel or JB Weld or you could try Devcon ali putty but I’ve not tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 There is no point in using Devcon containing steel for what you are doing and its expensive for the small amount you will need, Araldite epoxy resin will do the job just fine or as said JB weld (which is epoxy resin containing a fine metal powder) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 i will post a few pics up to show what i need to do if anyone is interested........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: i will post a few pics up to show what i need to do if anyone is interested........... Yes I am, have you done any gilding before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, old'un said: Yes I am, have you done any gilding before? yup lots........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, ditchman said: i will post a few pics up to show what i need to do if anyone is interested........... hello, photos would be good Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchman said: i will post a few pics up to show what i need to do if anyone is interested........... 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 should have taken some pics a few days ago cause it was mingin..........history is i bought it 20 odd years ago...it is a early victorian copy of a french louis 14th mantel clock..its made from smelter/copper pot metal ....NOT BRONZE...it was bust when i bought it for pennies and some one ...folk ...had over the years painted it guilded it (without size) guilded it with wieird size...(almost like a latex painted it the marble was yellow...........i poo you not it was skip material.....all i did to it then was take to the clock person to have it checked and cleaned...since then it has been in various sheds i have stripped it back...just the cherubs to the original surface...there are bare patches which i will recover...i will try not to do too much.....i have cleaned the marble on the outriggers and re-assembled them but the metal work needs cleaning down to original as it is all choked up and lost its definition... if i remember i will take pics as i go along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longstrider Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) I'd use JB Weld. Put a little on each surface and push well together. TIP ... Have some acetone (nail polish remover) to hand and wipe excess resin off with that on a cotton bud or tissue as soon as you can. White spirit etc won't touch the stuff, but acetone will leave the surfaces clean and ready to take the top-finish. Edited December 16, 2019 by Longstrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Chemical metal is what I'd use, can file it paint it dri.it tap it, it just works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, figgy said: Chemical metal is what I'd use, can file it paint it dri.it tap it, it just works. right i will do that.............just got the size (glue) this morning ....better than the last lot i bought....so i will get on with it and proberly post a few pics up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 JB weld it look at their you tube videos if in doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croohur Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Another vote for JB Weld. Can be bought on Evilbay at a reasonable price. I find I use it for all sorts and the two tubes last for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 is rhat like q bond? basically super glue and powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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