oowee Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 I am after some hessian or similar that I can use to cover deer during the summer when I hang them over night. Ideally it will be something that is washable. Any ideas would be welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratlegs Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 A builder gave me some a while ago Gets his hessian from builders merchants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 travis perkins type places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Butchers muslin socks/cloth, the type they use on sheep carcass...https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mutton-Stockinette-Muslin-Wrapping-Polishing/dp/B0779DM93P or...https://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-60-Muslin-MUNTJAC-Deer/dp/B000AU3KJ8 Edited January 22, 2020 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Yes, the muslin butchers tube is the stuff you need. I have a large amount of hessian but I'm a long way away from you. I don't think it is what you need for the job. The muslin tubes are good and you can make up some 1/2 inch plastic pipe hoops to go inside to hold it away from the meat/carcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Muslin tubes are good and they are washable. I think mine came from Countryman of Derby. I also have a thing labelled ‘Roesafe’. Can’t remember where from, maybe Bushwear? It will take an animal the size of a Fallow doe/pricked and is completely fly proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I use a mosquito net that I got from ikea came with the hoops attached it was only about £15 had it 6 or so years now fantastic bit of kit also collects the ticks well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 22/01/2020 at 17:34, dogsnott said: A builder gave me some a while ago Gets his hessian from builders merchants Failing that, big coffee importers! They ship beans in hessian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 You can buy hessian off the roll if needed: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2386202.m570.l1311.R1.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xhesi.TRS0&_nkw=hesian+roll&_sacat=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Got mine here. Good stuff. Evil bay. 291158213545. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Thank you for the suggestions. Apparently the hessian can transfer fibres (not sure what that matters as its in the fur) to the carcas and the covering needs to be away from the body of the animal to stop flys laying eggs through the material. Someone else suggested a mosquito net and I have some of those, bed sized so will look to rig up a hooped cover of some sort. The gambrels and hoist are in a line on the log store so one large net should cover them. Edited January 24, 2020 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, oowee said: Thank you for the suggestions. Apparently the hessian can transfer fibres (not sure what that matters as its in the fur) to the carcas and the covering needs to be away from the body of the animal to stop flys laying eggs through the material. Someone else suggested a mosquito net and I have some of those, bed sized so will look to rig up a hooped cover of some sort. The gambrels and hoist are in a line on the log store so one large net should cover them. Here ya go, hoops and mesh all in one place. Carpmesh/sack keep net. Carp mesh is very fine to stop the trailing edge on the main dorsal spine, with is serrated, from catching in the net. It should be tight enough to stop flies. https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&rlz=1C1CHBD_enGB757GB757&sxsrf=ACYBGNS8dk1iqB5bQYMlIAxHB-GW6iltmA%3A1579870111722&ei=n-cqXrrUK8qW8gL1kIqQCg&q=carp+sack+keep+net&oq=carp+sack+keep+net&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0i13i5i30l2.145466.148457..153660...0.2..0.107.761.4j4......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i333j0i10j0i5i30j0i7i5i30j0i8i7i30.IcKyYTHFXh0&ved=0ahUKEwj6n7PmopznAhVKi1wKHXWIAqIQ4dUDCAs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I was about to say carp sack. You can get some huge ones, zipped, with handles, washable, pack down small. Ebay 173880545833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Old duvet cover with a frame or hoopla ring to keep it off the carcass. Fasten it at the top. Edited January 24, 2020 by loriusgarrulus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mick miller said: I was about to say carp sack. You can get some huge ones, zipped, with handles, washable, pack down small. Ebay 173880545833 The keep net type would the material off of the carcass. You would get two out of a 12ft net. Edited January 24, 2020 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Garden centres can be a good source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 hammer down put me on to this a few years back a mosquito net tie off and put a plate in the bottom to catch any fluids works a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 I made up a couple of long bags by sewing up some mosquito netting and I then made some hoops about 2ft in diamter out of water pipe...just stuffed some wood in to join the ends and these pushed up around the carcase held the net away. Worked a treat. Tend not to shoot much summer venison these days so do not get a fly problem. Don't know where those bags went or you could have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Walker570 said: Tend not to shoot much summer venison these days so do not get a fly problem. Problem round here a lot of the new stalkers can't sex roe clearly so prefer to shoot bucks in summer months while it's easy. Can't see the point in fly nets personally during summer as soon as cleaned they should be put in a chiller asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Yes, any chance of high temps and mine get skinned and in the freezer. The freezer will do a job on the venison....never had a piece I have had to reject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Hi Scaffolders debris netting, nylon so washable. 2 poly-pipe hoops - yellow gas board type or similar - appropriate diameter to take a Roe, knotted at the bottom and a hoop, other hoop at the top once slid over deer. Long side will need sewing/velcro. I have a roll of the netting somewhere so could sort out enough for a couple. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 If the animals are hung overnight then they are in effect 'step chilling' from 35 deg down to ambient naturaly, before active chilling and It avoids having to clean out the chiller. The net is a useful precaution when the flys are getting up early 🙂 The recent studies on carcass chilling and palatability tests published last year suggest slow or stepped chilling as better for the tenderness and palatability of the meat by avoiding 'cold shortening'. Compared to faster chilling techniques no increase in bacteria counts was found between the different chilling methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) I think I will personally stick to putting any meat in the summer months straight in the chiller. But I am sure this new logic will catch on soon with everyone else🤣 Edited January 28, 2020 by bumpy22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 26/01/2020 at 18:22, bumpy22 said: Problem round here a lot of the new stalkers can't sex roe clearly so prefer to shoot bucks in summer months while it's easy. Can't see the point in fly nets personally during summer as soon as cleaned they should be put in a chiller asap Jesus wept. Do you mean they are trying to avoid shooting a buck in the doe season? sexing roe is pretty basic stuff. Why do they let it put them off culling during the winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 hours ago, oowee said: If the animals are hung overnight then they are in effect 'step chilling' from 35 deg down to ambient naturaly, before active chilling and It avoids having to clean out the chiller. The net is a useful precaution when the flys are getting up early 🙂 The recent studies on carcass chilling and palatability tests published last year suggest slow or stepped chilling as better for the tenderness and palatability of the meat by avoiding 'cold shortening'. Compared to faster chilling techniques no increase in bacteria counts was found between the different chilling methods. That sounds logical. Could you build yourself a purpose built fly safe? From your posts on here you seem to shoot quite a few bucks, I bet you have the use for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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