spurs 14 Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hi guys need bit of advice , does anyone know if there is a limit to the amount of times someone can put into a council for planning permission on a piece of land and have it denied ? , or is it simply a case of they are more than happy to keep taking their money ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 They can deny it as much as they like, can't you work around the objections/issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 No it’s not me I’m objecting ! We’re in a cul de sac in town , ten houses , it backs onto a row of terraced houses with one large house which years ago was turned into flats with an area out back for parking and access from their road to it , Now this was sold flats tarted up and sold on but developer kept car park and put in for planning permission for a house , then a bungalow now a small bungalow , it’s surrounded on all sides by overlooking houses but wanted access from our side plus it really is a tiny plot it keeps getting rejected but it’s a pain just wondered if there was a limit , just smacks of greed by the developer , I’d have thought that off road parking would have been a plus selling points for the flats but I guess this is more profit , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Keep objecting when they try again. Near me a field that is flood plain had planning permission sought. They wanted 4 big houses and a road. It was clear they would then develop the rest of the field and very soon there would be an estate in an otherwise small village. The access cannot support the traffic and it's out of keeping with the village, also in areas not considered for development by the parish. 3 times it's been rejected, I'm sure they Will have another go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 This I think is the fifth time this has gone in , cheers for replies , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 No cap on the number of times you can apply for planning permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 A chap I know kept at it for 12 year's to convert a barn into a home but got permission in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Piece of land in our small hamlet has had applications for the last 30yrs to my knowledge and all turned down. We do not have mains sewage but they still keep trying. Now a new buyer of a farm with a small plot and dutch barn over the road has put in for nine houses but with no explanation how foul water will be disposed of. The whole hamlet has objected. I am sure they will continue to make application. There is no limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just make sure you keep objecting, they keep trying to develop some fields by us and despite many applications being refused I have no doubt eventually they will grind down the number of objections until it gets passed. Objecting takes time and effort and when it’s every few months like with us, people get confused over what is actually happening and the developer eventually sways the council Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 As long as they want to throw money at it they can keep going. Planning permission in situations like this is quite often sorted over unofficial boozy lunches or trade offs. It sounds all very conspiracy theory but we were talking about just this with a housing developer friend of our last night. It's not what you know it's who you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Walker570 said: Piece of land in our small hamlet has had applications for the last 30yrs to my knowledge and all turned down. We do not have mains sewage but they still keep trying. Now a new buyer of a farm with a small plot and dutch barn over the road has put in for nine houses but with no explanation how foul water will be disposed of. The whole hamlet has objected. I am sure they will continue to make application. There is no limit. 9 houses is very easy to do on package treatment plant... 3mx10m space (approx.) and you can discharge to a watercourse or drainage field.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 It's not who know buy who you blow. Eventually he will either get the plans past or sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted February 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 I thought that the planning applications had to be different in some way otherwise the authority could refuse to register them if the same applications had been refused and turned down on appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Benthejockey said: As long as they want to throw money at it they can keep going. Planning permission in situations like this is quite often sorted over unofficial boozy lunches or trade offs. It sounds all very conspiracy theory but we were talking about just this with a housing developer friend of our last night. It's not what you know it's who you know. Also the council can't wait for the Rates to start flowing in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumfelter Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 Is this just not nimbyism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 hello, these Council workers like planning many are jobs worth and prone to this sort of behaviour, there was an instance in the Vale where a family owned a very large plot of land and house wanted to build another house for a family member, tried many times for planning but were turned down so put up for sale, and guess what bought by a planning officer family member, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot & Missed Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 Could be seen that way- everyone's house was development when it was built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, old man said: Also the council can't wait for the Rates to start flowing in? They don't keep them from resi. 10 minutes ago, Shot & Missed said: Could be seen that way- everyone's house was development when it was built. This and we need more houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 hours ago, oowee said: They don't keep them from resi. Thanks wasn't aware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 16 hours ago, oowee said: They don't keep them from resi. This and we need more houses. I beg to differ these are cuts from the local gov, website Council Tax A council tax is set by each individual authority and authorities are able to retain all of the funding raised from council tax in their area to support their budget. Council tax is charged on domestic properties, Business Rates Business rates are set by central government, which sets the multiplier, a pence in the pound value which is then applied to the rateable value, an estimate of the open market rental value a property could achieve on a specified date. Properties with a rateable value of £12,000 or less are exempt from business rates and those up to £15,000 are eligible for small business rates relief. There are other reliefs and exemptions, including an 80 per cent discount for properties used by charities. Currently local government, collectively retains half of the income from business rates, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Stop it, Chaps, for crying out loud don't wind me up. You need to see what the clown next door has banged in for. My shooting oppo is a builder and can't stop laughing. The house has just been sold and oppo is convinced that the guy will move in (he has) create havoc, wait the period and then sell and move on. If you want a five bedroom house, why buy a 2 bedroom bungalow and extend it outwards and upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Yellow Bear said: I beg to differ these are cuts from the local gov, website But it is covered with additional RSG payment from government so no incentive for the LA to increase as effectively their budget is set by central govt. Ie more CT less RSG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullard83 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, wymberley said: Stop it, Chaps, for crying out loud don't wind me up. You need to see what the clown next door has banged in for. My shooting oppo is a builder and can't stop laughing. The house has just been sold and oppo is convinced that the guy will move in (he has) create havoc, wait the period and then sell and move on. If you want a five bedroom house, why buy a 2 bedroom bungalow and extend it outwards and upwards. You have answered that yourself, they wait the period & then sell it on for a tidy profit. My ex boss has twice done this & I helped him on the one he is currently residing in, wich again he will sell on. Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 hours ago, wymberley said: Stop it, Chaps, for crying out loud don't wind me up. You need to see what the clown next door has banged in for. My shooting oppo is a builder and can't stop laughing. The house has just been sold and oppo is convinced that the guy will move in (he has) create havoc, wait the period and then sell and move on. If you want a five bedroom house, why buy a 2 bedroom bungalow and extend it outwards and upwards. its all about the £ have worked on many historical listed buildings in sensitive areas for many years now the thinking is ultra modern so as not to look like fake old I despair the only one in a historic village being an absolute eye sore standing on its own may as well be a pizza hut steel building would fit in better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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