islandgun Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time | The Independent Good or bad ? My initial reaction is that its a good thing...with some caveats ! Edited December 2, 2020 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Not for me thanks, but think its something WJ would be interested in promoting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 The name has put me off not into lab golden or black labs pups are also 2k each make Building a breeding stock expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, old'un said: Not for me thanks, but think its something WJ would be interested in promoting. Im thinking if it might be good alternative fast food, leading to a reduction in intensive meat production, feed lots etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 I thought this been going on for years. Rightly or wrongly I was informed that McDonalds had previously served food that had been grown chemically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 It's a no from me 🤢🤮🤮🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Cell cultures of body cells have been grown for years in laboratories to use for testing to replace some animal studies. This was the logical next step, but how they are going to reproduce a 21 day matured Aberdeen Angus steak is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, yates said: I thought this been going on for years. Rightly or wrongly I was informed that McDonalds had previously served food that had been grown chemically McDonald's as far as I know have very strict and high standards. They are such an enormous company they have a lot to uphold. They buy such a massive amount of meat as well they pretty much dictate what the producers grow, and everyone else has the left overs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: It's a no from me 🤢🤮🤮🤮 And it’s a NO from him! Sorry, couldn’t resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, loriusgarrulus said: Cell cultures of body cells have been grown for years in laboratories to use for testing to replace some animal studies. This was the logical next step, but how they are going to reproduce a 21 day matured Aberdeen Angus steak is another matter. Indeed..😉 It is essential that we have grazing animals to keep our countryside in the condition it is in now and think there will always be market for quality meat, as i said earlier I would be happy if fast food was grown in a lab though, Kentucky fried plankton ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, islandgun said: Indeed..😉 It is essential that we have grazing animals to keep our countryside in the condition it is in now and think there will always be market for quality meat, as i said earlier I would be happy if fast food was grown in a lab though, Kentucky fried plankton ! Presumably because you don't eat it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearwater Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 My good god, I dreaded opening this post as I thought someone was selling Labrador meat! I'm off for a stiff drink as I only drink when I'm happy Wow, the mind is a powerful thing lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Not for me.or the future of british farming😤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Presumably because you don't eat it? I do when im in town, If it looks and tastes like chicken ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just got to work out where to put the hide, with ALQ on the ticket I’m good to have a go. 😳😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 I think it's a great thing. Not so much for us in the UK, but globally we're pushing the limits of meat consumption and production. For countries that can't feed their cattle on grass this could be a great alternative to shipping in thousands of tons of feed. We'd have to compare the environmental impact locally before it truly becomes viable, but if it takes less to produce, is safer and can be made locally then I'm all for it. If it just becomes another big industry with it being flown all over the world at an elevated cost for the sake of being "environmentally friendly", then it's a no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: I think it's a great thing. Not so much for us in the UK, but globally we're pushing the limits of meat consumption and production. I can't say I think it is a great thing exactly, but you have hit the nail with one thing - "but globally we're pushing the limits of ......." - and in the dots you can add carbon emissions, fresh water, food production, forests to sustain CO2 capture/oxygen production etc. Basically the world is getting too many people to be able to reliably support them. So - IF the lab grown meat can be used as a standby for emergencies for famines etc (to which it seems to me - unsuited) - OK - but IF it is just another way to 'hide' the fact that we are getting more people than the planet can support and sustain - it has to be a massive NO. Would I personally try it? Yes, if pressed. Would I try and move to it permanently, probably not unless there was a taste/convenience advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Demonic69 said: I think it's a great thing. Not so much for us in the UK, but globally we're pushing the limits of meat consumption and production. For countries that can't feed their cattle on grass this could be a great alternative to shipping in thousands of tons of feed. We'd have to compare the environmental impact locally before it truly becomes viable, but if it takes less to produce, is safer and can be made locally then I'm all for it. If it just becomes another big industry with it being flown all over the world at an elevated cost for the sake of being "environmentally friendly", then it's a no. 👍. Iv'e been involved in agriculture all my life.. for me, meat should be a premium product with a price tag that reflects its quality of life and health giving benefits. The majority of us seem to have lost touch with the origins of our food and prefer to eat disposable meat covered in sauce that has no value, this "lab" meat might easily serve the same purpose with much less inputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Makes you wonder if there is any link with producing meat in the lab and the announcement today of a ban in 2021 on sending UK animals to-be slaughtered in Europe. Makes me also wonder where all these animals will now be slaughtered in the UK, do we still have the capacity for such numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 I'd try it. I've tried a lot of veggie meals as a comparison and some are nice, some not so. Wasn't that long ago the were talking about insects and krill as a viable alternative to food shortages. Obviously a bacon sarnie dripping with a runny egg will win all day, everyday, I'd have a go at a fake steak, providing they grow it without the fat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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