henry d Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, old'un said: is that all of the report or just that bit? Have another read of what I said, should be apparent. Illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits in the UK, but if they call themselves Refugees/ asylum seekers they can claim benefits of £15,410 for doing sweet FA (London) 1 - They can't access benefits. £8.24/week in accommodation that provides food (usually initial accommodation) and after that in self catering accommodation £40-85/week on a pre paid card. That's £2124 PA, where do you get £15410 from? 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, yes , hotel accomodation and food every day, it's more than the 1000s of homeless get in uk So how much can a homeless person get? UC, £265.31/month or just over £65/month and that is the lowest allowance available according to the government website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51/50 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Get with the programme guys. What we are witnessing is a WEF orchestrated full-on invasion,deliberate & devisive! Johnson,Truss,Sunak,Macron,all WEF puppets. Regardless of what any home secretary may promise it will never come to any fruition,yes they might manage somehow to deport a few but it won't last,smoke,mirrors & pantomime. For as long as Klaus Scwab is running WEFminster it's only ever going to get worse. R.I.P Great Britian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Full on tinfoil night, and Halloween. Who would have thought 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 All the msm furore about Suella keeping small boat invaders in a inhumane processing centre for several days - I think shes got the right idea.... make it weeks. They didn't mind the inhumanity of their packed dingy to get here and the more uncomfortable their containment when they arrive the more it can discourage others to travel. Leave them there for longer I say: they didn't need a roof over their head or heating, or nice clothes and sustenance in the channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Dave, look up inhumane in the dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 18 hours ago, oowee said: Only a social democracy where the majority have a fair share and world resources can be conserved can ultimately be sustainable. That's pie in the sky, it's been peddled as a political aspiration for centuries. It never has worked and it never will work because it flies in the face of the human condition. Nice to dream about and great for charlatan politicians to promise but it never seems to happen. Read Animal Farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Vince Green said: That's pie in the sky, it's been peddled as a political aspiration for centuries. It never has worked and it never will work because it flies in the face of the human condition. Nice to dream about and great for charlatan politicians to promise but it never seems to happen. Read Animal Farm Have you seen 'The Road'? That's the alternative I guess will we recognise the choice before we don't have one? . Animal Farm is more the failings of communism so nothing to do with social democracy. Edited November 1, 2022 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, henry d said: Dave, look up inhumane in the dictionary. How does it feel being on a higher plane of virtuousness than everyone else? Perhaps you should look up inhumane in relation to the UK citizens left in agony due to lack of hospital places, or dying from curable illness due to pressure on he NHS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Our masters have little reason to stop the flow of migrants as it represents a rather good gravy train to ride. There are at least 5 major companies up to their necks in housing migrants Serco, G4S, Mitie, Mears & Clearspring ready homes ltd. Collectively they have had something near 2.2 billion from the taxpayer. It isnt stopping anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hello, well if I was a young person in UK say in my 20s and see how this country we call Great Britain is going I would emigrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 12 hours ago, henry d said: 1 - They can't access benefits. £8.24/week in accommodation that provides food (usually initial accommodation) and after that in self catering accommodation £40-85/week on a pre paid card. That's £2124 PA, where do you get £15410 from? So how much can a homeless person get? UC, £265.31/month or just over £65/month and that is the lowest allowance available according to the government website. The figure of £40.85 refers to asylum seekers, not someone who as been granted asylum, but asylum seekers can still claim the £40.85 and somewhere to live even if refused asylum. Link...https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get Someone granted alyssum will be offered the following accommodation, flat, house, hotel, hostel or bed and breakfast, but cannot choose where they go. Once granted asylum, and as far as I know, they entitled to apply for all the benefits of any other UK citizen. free prescriptions for medicine free dental care for your teeth free eyesight tests help paying for glasses free schooling. the £15.410 link…https://www.gov.uk/benefit-cap/benefit-cap-amounts link…https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-immigrant-benefits-uk-idUSKBN22J30G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 If they don’t like it ,there’s always a tent back in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, well if I was a young person in UK say in my 20s and see how this country we call Great Britain is going I would emigrate But where would they emigrate to - the world is messed up - Especially in English speaking countries (New Zealand, Australia, Canada, USA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, henry d said: Dave, look up inhumane in the dictionary. That's what I saw was being claimed on sensationalist MSM - no doubt put about by lefty solicitors getting paid via legal aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hello, 40,000 so far this year, estimated over 700,000 already in UK, if that's not an invasion I don't know another word, 🤔, 37 minutes ago, discobob said: But where would they emigrate to - the world is messed up - Especially in English speaking countries (New Zealand, Australia, Canada, USA) Still plenty of opportunities in New Zealand for young people, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, oowee said: Have you seen 'The Road'? That's the alternative I guess will we recognise the choice before we don't have one? . Animal Farm is more the failings of communism so nothing to do with social democracy. I know Cormac McCarthy's books very well, Ive seen The Road many times , and read the book twice. The type of societal breakdown it speaks of is obviously what you are alluding to, but its interesting that you pick that particular example, when the apocalyptic scenario in it , has a finality to it , there really is no way back from it. Our society wouldnt need anything like that to break down, look at the 2011 London riots. Estimates vary , but lets say 100,000 rioters involved, with the total breakdown of law and order in some parts of London. All because a local gangster got shot by the police ? Toxteth , Broadwater farm , take your pick of these small scale breakdowns in law and order, where the police and emergency services were overwhelmed. What if something more serious happened, and all that disaffected youth, criminal element, opportunists and generally bored got busy in ALL towns and cities. Look at the George Floyd killing , one man triggered the destruction of towns and cities , and deaths of dozens of people. Rodney King , anyone remember him ? What does it take for a societal breakdown on a larger scale ? The lights going out , not being able to eat properly, heat your home , benefits cut ? What makes people take to the streets ? Is it a massive influx of migrants sneaking into the country who dont have to worry about food , heating ? What about rapes going up , robbery or fraud ? Do the people of Sweden riot on the streets because the immigrant 10 % of the populace they have fed and housed , commit over 50 % of the sexual crimes against their women ? Do the indigenous people of this country riot, when its discovered there has been the systematic rape of thousands of children dating back years , by a certain demographic ? Turn it round and imagine what would happen if the roles were reversed. When you smash two cultures together, especially when one of them is more 'civilised' than the other , there is only one outcome, its the forced integration of one into the other. And that doesnt always mean the one with the majority survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 18 hours ago, old'un said: ...Illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits in the UK, but if they call themselves Refugees/ asylum seekers they can claim benefits of £15,410 for doing sweet FA (London) 3 hours ago, old'un said: Someone granted alyssum.... Once granted asylum... ...the link... You quoted asylum seekers in the original (top) quote, hence the question. Once granted asylum they could get benefits, that's how it works, same as for British citizens. 2 hours ago, Dave-G said: That's what I saw was being claimed on sensationalist MSM - no doubt put about by lefty solicitors getting paid via legal aid. NO, look up inhumane and apply it to "They didn't mind the inhumanity of their packed dingy..." part of your rant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, henry d said: NO, look up inhumane and apply it to "They didn't mind the inhumanity of their packed dingy..." part of your rant! We all know by now I'm slightly autistic Henry and not as good at expressing myself as well as I'd like - but you carry on dragging threads down while riding that perfect high horse of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamyonsofor Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave-G said: That's what I saw was being claimed on sensationalist MSM - no doubt put about by lefty solicitors getting paid via legal aid. Starmer was one of them ,they know where easy rich pickings are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Not a trait I know of with higher functioning autistic people, they are good at understanding words but not body language and they would have a problem with using "high horse". I told you to look up "inhumane" so you could use it correctly and in the past you have asked for help with links you have been sent etc and asked for help there, I'm sorry that this time you aren't willing to take the help given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, henry d said: Not a trait I know of with higher functioning autistic people, they are good at understanding words but not body language and they would have a problem with using "high horse". I told you to look up "inhumane" so you could use it correctly and in the past you have asked for help with links you have been sent etc and asked for help there, I'm sorry that this time you aren't willing to take the help given. Then I may have read it wrong, sorry if that's the case: which is I think another trait. It came across as being a bit superior as some of your posts seem to suggest... to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 20 hours ago, henry d said: If they are here illegally do they get anything at all? They certainly get taken straight foe a good hot meal so I was told by a local employed by the Dungeness railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, henry d said: If they are here illegally do they get anything at all? Well something is costing the tax payer £6,500,000 a day Edited November 1, 2022 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 just shy of 40,000 for this year so far........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, old man said: They certainly get taken straight foe a good hot meal so I was told by a local employed by the Dungeness railway. So we just let them starve until we ascertain their claim to asylum? Boy you are way right of any fascist or other despot I can think of 😳 3 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Well something is costing the tax payer £6,500,000 a day Again how much is those here without a true claim for asylum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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