welsh1 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mice! said: Yes I realise that they wouldn't want to be sat still, but it's not like the Gulf where we had footage of constant air strikes on tanks. I've seen a few drone strikes on the armour, but they'll need a lot more to stop everything. The Uk have supplied lots of NLAW anti tank weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: AFAIK the promise of Planes has been renaged on. What promise of planes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Hello, Putin won't be satisfied until he murders every Ukraine national while the world looks on !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Putin won't be satisfied until he murders every Ukraine national while the world looks on !!! Well it wouldn't be the first time Russia has kill Ukrainians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What promise of planes? The EU committed 70 odd war planes to be delivered to Poland for collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: The EU committed 70 odd war planes to be delivered to Poland for collection. The promise has been made but some of the planes (some ex Russian stock) are from Slovakia. SK are saying that they are maintained by Russians and it would be a hard sell in Bratislava. SK wants confirmation from Poland that they will provide Slovakia with air cover. “+70 planes for the Ukrainian army! Our partners give us the MiG-29 and Su-25! Bulgaria (MiG-29) – 16 units Bulgaria (Su-25) – 14 units Poland (Mig-29) – 28 units Slovakia (Mig-29) – 12 units” Edited March 2, 2022 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Weihrauch17 said: The EU committed 70 odd war planes to be delivered to Poland for collection. The EU doesnt have any planes It probably thinks it has its own air force and everything, but no , it has pens, laptops , a 10 billion euro admin budget , and about as much tactical knowledge as my cat. And NATO isnt sending any planes either, its called propaganda. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/03/01/no-eu-countries-arent-sending-fighter-jets-to-ukraine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 You are repeating what I said, they aren't sending any Planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: The EU committed 70 odd war planes to be delivered to Poland for collection. This one? https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/28/ukrainian-pilots-arrive-in-poland-to-pick-up-donated-fighter-jets-00012560 "A proposed deal to allow Ukrainian pilots to fly fighter jets donated by European Union countries has fallen apart. Over the course of a confusing 48 hours, the EU announced it had brokered an arrangement for member states to allow Ukrainian pilots to start flying their used Russian fighter planes, only to have those countries deny there was any such deal even as Kyiv trumpeted the impending arrival of the jets. The dissolution of the deal comes as European countries lined up Monday to announce new weapons packages for Ukraine, from anti-armor and anti-air rockets to artillery and medical supplies." Edited March 2, 2022 by TIGHTCHOKE Addition of text from link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Some idea of what Putin's end goal might look like ... Russia wants to declare former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych - ousted during anti-government protests in 2013-14 - as the new leader of Ukraine, the Ukrayinska Pravda news and analysis website has reported, quoting Ukrainian intelligence. Yanukovych is now in Minsk, according to the Ukrainian website's source. He fled to Russia in 2014. The Kremlin may be preparing a media operation or campaign to bring Yanukovych back to Ukraine, or publish an address from him to the Ukrainian people, the newspaper said. In January the UK said Moscow was plotting to install a pro-Moscow figure to lead Ukraine's government. The Foreign Office named former Ukrainian MP Yevhen Murayev as a potential Kremlin candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Smokersmith said: Some idea of what Putin's end goal might look like ... Russia wants to declare former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych - ousted during anti-government protests in 2013-14 - as the new leader of Ukraine, the Ukrayinska Pravda news and analysis website has reported, quoting Ukrainian intelligence. Yanukovych is now in Minsk, according to the Ukrainian website's source. He fled to Russia in 2014. The Kremlin may be preparing a media operation or campaign to bring Yanukovych back to Ukraine, or publish an address from him to the Ukrainian people, the newspaper said. In January the UK said Moscow was plotting to install a pro-Moscow figure to lead Ukraine's government. The Foreign Office named former Ukrainian MP Yevhen Murayev as a potential Kremlin candidate. There was a press release prepared, apparently rather prematurely and has now been withdrawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 15 hours ago, welsh1 said: The Uk have supplied lots of NLAW anti tank weapons. $80,000 a pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Weihrauch17 said: $80,000 a pop. We will have lots of stored war stock that is nearing the end of its shelf life, so it would either get disposed or better to send it to Ukraine where it can be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 I see Putins shutting down objectors in Russia. hopefully the good people of Russia will put an end to this dictator https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/amid-war-an-independent-russian-radio-station-goes-silent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: We will have lots of stored war stock that is nearing the end of its shelf life, so it would either get disposed or better to send it to Ukraine where it can be used. Well that makes sense and they are making very good use of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 24/02/2022 at 21:45, Raja Clavata said: I looked it up and yes, as well as that democracy, individual liberty and upholding the rule of law. Apparently Biden himself had warned years ago they needed to reform their widespread corruption. It remains to be seen but I would have thought the current scenario increases Ukranian resolve to join NATO. What, like Hunter's? I suppose he has first hand knowledge 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 27/02/2022 at 16:33, welsh1 said: Every day Putin has troops in battle costs him a fortune, he wanted a quick victory, he isn't getting it and will become more and more desperate.He is being made to look a fool on the world stage, his troops are supposed to be the best and they are being stopped by an army who he has dismissed in the past. The longer he fights the more supplies he has to move and Ukraine have been hitting his supply lines, putin is hurt. 15 billion dollars a day, I have heard quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 09:25, Gordon R said: Yes you have, but I will call a halt to the junior debate. There are people dying, which is far more important. Too be fair, you asked the silly question, Gordon, out of the context of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 28/02/2022 at 21:41, Salmo9 said: Well worth 37 minutes of anyone’s time.. (plus popcorn). I'll watch it later, but Starky usually talks a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 20:22, ShootingEgg said: Need to find a way of slowing that down somehow or blocking the route in.. a 40mile long convoy is insane and is pretty much a death squad intent on eradicating Kyiv of everything and everyone. The Ukrainians are condcting what they are calling the Úkrainian Safari; civilians are taking down all of the roads, so the Russian forces cannot use them to find there way around. From a Ukrainian work colleague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Quote Too be fair, you asked the silly question, Gordon, out of the context of this thread. You aren't being fair. You need to read what has been posted before making daft comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Gordon R said: You aren't being fair. You need to read what has been posted before making daft comments. I did, Gordon. It was obvious he wasn't talking about his home in the context of your question. 2 minutes ago, Gordon R said: You aren't being fair. You need to read what has been posted before making daft comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 You need to read carefully. Obviously you don't. You might say it was obvious, but it wasn't what he posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gordon R said: You need to read carefully. Obviously you don't. You might say it was obvious, but it wasn't what he posted. Oh, come on Gordon, given what this thread is about, you're either being a pedant or just baiting for an arguement; neither is good form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Penelope said: The Ukrainians are condcting what they are calling the Úkrainian Safari; civilians are taking down all of the roads, so the Russian forces cannot use them to find there way around. From a Ukrainian work colleague. Think they need to look to destroy roads and make them impassable like they would bridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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