Scully Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 11 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, good for them 👍 are they hoping to bring back any Ukrainian citizens if they have visas ? I’m not too sure they themselves know what’s going to happen. They have a rough idea of taking refugees wherever they can, but apparently some of the camps are dire, as is always the case, but they were told a lot of economic refugees are using the conflict as a means to get to the west, so it’s not going to be easy to differentiate between those who are genuinely in need of refuge and others who may not be. If they can bus some back to the UK, then they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 21 hours ago, Scully said: but they were told a lot of economic refugees are using the conflict as a means to get to the west, so it’s not going to be easy to differentiate between those who are genuinely in need of refuge and others who may not be. Good god Scully, don't try bringing nuance into this discussion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: Good god Scully, don't try bringing nuance into this discussion! 🙂Indeed, not all refugees are refugees, as we well know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 19/03/2022 at 12:45, Scully said: A couple of blokes from the village have rented a 10 seater minibus and are setting off to the Polish border with Ukraine on Monday. I do hope it’s not one of the latest electric powered vehicles or they won’t get to Dover much before Easter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 They have just had two jerrycans of fuel confiscated by Dutch customs. Ah well, lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 Hello, that's a shame Scully but fair play for their good deed on help out over in Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 20/03/2022 at 11:17, Scully said: I’m not too sure they themselves know what’s going to happen. They have a rough idea of taking refugees wherever they can, but apparently some of the camps are dire, as is always the case, but they were told a lot of economic refugees are using the conflict as a means to get to the west, so it’s not going to be easy to differentiate between those who are genuinely in need of refuge and others who may not be. If they can bus some back to the UK, then they will. Its very easy to identify the genuine ones Now Mr Scully where did you live? what street? whats your postcode? what bus goes past your door? just simple questions like that will weed out the fakes very quickly. If you sit them down for five minutes with a local asking them questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 Hello, well it looks to me those wanting to take in Ukrainian families not having relatives already in UK are going to have a long wait or dare I say may never even happen with the 50 page visa applications, I do understand the logic to make sure it's only genuine refugees applying and the hosts are genuine to but surely this could be made simpler ?? I can see many Ukrainians giving up on their hope to seek refuge in UK and go to another country, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, well it looks to me those wanting to take in Ukrainian families not having relatives already in UK are going to have a long wait or dare I say may never even happen with the 50 page visa applications, I do understand the logic to make sure it's only genuine refugees applying and the hosts are genuine to but surely this could be made simpler ?? I can see many Ukrainians giving up on their hope to seek refuge in UK and go to another country, I reckon you're right Gordon. And in the meantime, the government is welcoming hundreds of dingy paddlers every day. Maybe we should be sending dinghies to Ukrainians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) Pretend 16 years old Ukrainian refugees: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCDtleGir0iU%26feature%3Dshare%26fbclid%3DIwAR2-GJNOkWJrYl1PIJPkaW28jMzUS1DM6hOEBCyeSAA0vAaI_5-rynplTnc&h=AT0HU2CC6rP0XpRK1eM_aB6858zb5ftSUGPSVnJ5FXh3GJMthTaeXjCn-ZkAFSMLwC81suzi4hOM4HZwaMTaHZSpRGGMHi7rmrUYGSrxUUFIBvHV24T9sBcG-RV5gQb4HtE&__tn__=H-R&c[0]=AT0_bryLqTasabJEWz7fMcO15pxOr2xK2c7bx1oDeuHM0kAmpI8DDRu6MJWEgBASezUXWfnLlDWadwPuhH0dDSopk7084GdFdAelgYYJki1ULZYoV82oG59CZ2Q4_rpF4sJ1IkqyBtVKoyFLnltJnLVXYMc Edited March 26, 2022 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Pretend 16 years old Ukrainian refugees: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCDtleGir0iU%26feature%3Dshare%26fbclid%3DIwAR2-GJNOkWJrYl1PIJPkaW28jMzUS1DM6hOEBCyeSAA0vAaI_5-rynplTnc&h=AT0HU2CC6rP0XpRK1eM_aB6858zb5ftSUGPSVnJ5FXh3GJMthTaeXjCn-ZkAFSMLwC81suzi4hOM4HZwaMTaHZSpRGGMHi7rmrUYGSrxUUFIBvHV24T9sBcG-RV5gQb4HtE&__tn__=H-R&c[0]=AT0_bryLqTasabJEWz7fMcO15pxOr2xK2c7bx1oDeuHM0kAmpI8DDRu6MJWEgBASezUXWfnLlDWadwPuhH0dDSopk7084GdFdAelgYYJki1ULZYoV82oG59CZ2Q4_rpF4sJ1IkqyBtVKoyFLnltJnLVXYMc Hello, yes there is always people will try a gain entry to any country, but why check at Airport, ?? Why not on the polish border ? Edited March 26, 2022 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dave-G said: Pretend 16 years old Ukrainian refugees: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCDtleGir0iU%26feature%3Dshare%26fbclid%3DIwAR2-GJNOkWJrYl1PIJPkaW28jMzUS1DM6hOEBCyeSAA0vAaI_5-rynplTnc&h=AT0HU2CC6rP0XpRK1eM_aB6858zb5ftSUGPSVnJ5FXh3GJMthTaeXjCn-ZkAFSMLwC81suzi4hOM4HZwaMTaHZSpRGGMHi7rmrUYGSrxUUFIBvHV24T9sBcG-RV5gQb4HtE&__tn__=H-R&c[0]=AT0_bryLqTasabJEWz7fMcO15pxOr2xK2c7bx1oDeuHM0kAmpI8DDRu6MJWEgBASezUXWfnLlDWadwPuhH0dDSopk7084GdFdAelgYYJki1ULZYoV82oG59CZ2Q4_rpF4sJ1IkqyBtVKoyFLnltJnLVXYMc That's an Ukrainian refugee arrival area in Ireland. The interesting bit where he actually speaks with the Asians claiming to be 16 years old ukrainians is about five and a half minutes through after 'security' tried to stop him filming. Edited March 26, 2022 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mel b3 said: I reckon you're right Gordon. And in the meantime, the government is welcoming hundreds of dingy paddlers every day. Maybe we should be sending dinghies to Ukrainians. Hello, yes but France does not care and will do anything to let them come, those crossing the channel it cannot be easy to find your life in turmoil and want a safe haven but at what cost to us? Edited March 26, 2022 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 Does anybody know of any councillors , mp's Msp members of parliment offering or rehoming them ?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 2 hours ago, mel b3 said: And in the meantime, the government is welcoming hundreds of dingy paddlers every day. Maybe we should be sending dinghies to Ukrainians. No just the dinghy occupants to Ukraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Bigbob said: Does anybody know of any councillors , mp's Msp members of parliment offering or rehoming them ?> several years ago ...the same thing was asked of the archbishop of canterbury.....he flustered a bit and said it would be difficult as he was christian..and the refugees were muslim....then he added as a throw-a-way remark saying that his wife said she had just had the kitchen done,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Bigbob said: Does anybody know of any councillors , mp's Msp members of parliment offering or rehoming them ?> There have been plenty of celebs backing the homing of Ukrainian refugees, as Lily Allan, Benedict Cumberbatch and indeed Jeremy Clarkson advocated during one of the Middle East, Far East, Asian, African or whatever locality were busy killing each other at the time, but whether any of them actually have or did, I wouldn’t know. The Arch Bishop of Canterbury or whatever he’s called, could open the doors to St Pauls of course, plenty of room in there. The Windsors must have a spare room or two, you would think. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbobailey Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 9 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, well it looks to me those wanting to take in Ukrainian families not having relatives already in UK are going to have a long wait or dare I say may never even happen with the 50 page visa applications, I do understand the logic to make sure it's only genuine refugees applying and the hosts are genuine to but surely this could be made simpler ?? I can see many Ukrainians giving up on their hope to seek refuge in UK and go to another country, If they are safe in another country, all is well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Scully said: There have been plenty of celebs backing the homing of Ukrainian refugees, as Lily Allan, Benedict Cumberbatch and indeed Jeremy Clarkson advocated during one of the Middle East, Far East, Asian, African or whatever locality were busy killing each other at the time, but whether any of them actually have or did, I wouldn’t know. The Arch Bishop of Canterbury or whatever he’s called, could open the doors to St Pauls of course, plenty of room in there. The Windsors must have a spare room or two, you would think. 🤷♂️ Didn't Lilly Allan find out all was not a bed of roses when she opened her house to some?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, benbobailey said: If they are safe in another country, all is well! Hello, yes you right , at least the offer from over 150, 000 people is still there if any Ukrainians wish to come to UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, benbobailey said: If they are safe in another country, all is well! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbobailey Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 52 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, yes you right , at least the offer from over 150, 000 people is still there if any Ukrainians wish to come to UK Yes that's correct. If the people offering are unsuccessful with Ukraine refugees I'm sure they will extend their generosity and concern to offer homes to anyone else who cannot find safety in another country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 13 hours ago, benbobailey said: Yes that's correct. If the people offering are unsuccessful with Ukraine refugees I'm sure they will extend their generosity and concern to offer homes to anyone else who cannot find safety in another country. Hello, do you mean illegal immigrants ? there are people who help them, there called people traffickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 27, 2022 Report Share Posted March 27, 2022 15 hours ago, bluesj said: Didn't Lilly Allan find out all was not a bed of roses when she opened her house to some?! I have no idea. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Hello, has there been any news of any of the people registered in UK to give a home to any Ukrainians been successful ?? That is with no family ties in UK ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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