Penelope Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 I must agree I am very indifferent to piers at the best of times butβ¦β¦.well done that man ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ»ππ» Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Two sides who each may have some valid points worth debating reduced to one attention seeker shouting down another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 That was mint . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Two sides who each may have some valid points worth debating reduced to one attention seeker shouting down another. Yes. Both in fact good debaters. I don't like the Morgan man either but he also presented his case well. Especially regarding almonds and avocado.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 A farming friend sent me this some time ago; have no idea how true it is.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scully said: A farming friend sent me this some time ago; have no idea how true it is.Β And if sold "at the farm gate" nearly zero miles from maker to consumer with the dairy product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Funny but she is right and he is wrong but it will take time to turn the super tanker. I am doing vegy two days a week but a bacon sandwich is still my fave.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, oowee said: Funny but she is right and he is wrong but it will take time to turn the super tanker Iβd love for you to quantify that statement! Itβs not about right or wrong, itβs about as he said, living together without casting judgement, you want to be veganβ¦.cool you do that and let me eat meat and consume animal products without judging. Vegans are hypocrites simple as that, animals die in the production/ transportation of all food types, end of! And therefore veganism itself is impossible.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Think the man is brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 A few simple questions he could/shouldΒ have asked 1 When a plant based diet becomes law who will kill all the farm animals ? they cant just be set free as they will multiply and destroy the newly re-wilded farms,Β 2 Should food imports[vegetables] stop as it makes little sense to ship large quantities of food across the world with the aim to reduce emissions 3 Will the now redundant workforce [agriculture food and fisheries] be made to give up their land, factories and equipment and retrain if so what in 4 Can we live on a diet of root crops and cereals Im sure there are many more...in my view sustainability and freedom of choice should feature in any further debateΒ https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2022/09/06/animal-rights-protesters-film-themselves-drilling-holes-in-muller-lorry-tyres-at-willenhall/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 45 minutes ago, islandgun said: A few simple questions he could/shouldΒ have asked 1 When a plant based diet becomes law who will kill all the farm animals ? they cant just be set free as they will multiply and destroy the newly re-wilded farms,Β 2 Should food imports[vegetables] stop as it makes little sense to ship large quantities of food across the world with the aim to reduce emissions 3 Will the now redundant workforce [agriculture food and fisheries] be made to give up their land, factories and equipment and retrain if so what in 4 Can we live on a diet of root crops and cereals Im sure there are many more...in my view sustainability and freedom of choice should feature in any further debateΒ https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2022/09/06/animal-rights-protesters-film-themselves-drilling-holes-in-muller-lorry-tyres-at-willenhall/ A woman asked CP on social media if he could throw his weight behind the banning of horse racing. I asked her what would happen to all those race horses if they did. That was some time ago now and she still hasnβt got back to me. π€·ββοΈ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Spr1985 said: Iβd love for you to quantify that statement! Itβs not about right or wrong, itβs about as he said, living together without casting judgement, you want to be veganβ¦.cool you do that and let me eat meat and consume animal products without judging. Vegans are hypocrites simple as that, animals die in the production/ transportation of all food types, end of! And therefore veganism itself is impossible.Β Yep let's carry on as we are for now. As we need more food and reducing carbon, we will move to a more plant based diet and I guess synthetic based foods. Carbon tax will push meat to levels few can afford. The death of a few animals and insects will be inconsequential.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, Scully said: A woman asked CP on social media if he could throw his weight behind the banning of horse racing. I asked her what would happen to all those race horses if they did. That was some time ago now and she still hasnβt got back to me. π€·ββοΈ Its a simple fact that's never asked.. perhaps next would be a call for the removal of all pets, or a hands on approach to human overpopulation, all over 50's form a queue [at the cliff edge]π Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Scully said: A woman asked CP on social media if he could throw his weight behind the banning of horse racing. I asked her what would happen to all those race horses if they did. That was some time ago now and she still hasnβt got back to me. π€·ββοΈ That's easy, horse meat is quite tastyΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Never been a fan of Piers Morgan but I am now seeing him in a different light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGoose75 Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 An Irish woman too.π.tut tut..!Β Probably a city girl. Well played Piers Morgan. Morgan's views and response is similiar to what Kevin Costner's character ''John Dutton''Β in the hit TV series Yellowstone, told the vegan protester. I can't find a decent link for it, but it was a powerful scene that went out to a worldwide audience.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, SuperGoose75 said: An Irish woman too.π.tut tut..!Β Probably a city girl. Well played Piers Morgan. Morgan's views and response is similiar to what Kevin Costner's character ''John Dutton''Β in the hit TV series Yellowstone, told the vegan protester. I can't find a decent link for it, but it was a powerful scene that went out to a worldwide audience.Β This one? Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGoose75 Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Penelope said: This one? Β That's the very one! Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Superb, put a loud mouth extremist in her placeΒ Β Vegans need a good mixed diet and brain transplants.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, oowee said: Yep let's carry on as we are for now. As we need more food and reducing carbon, we will move to a more plant based diet and I guess synthetic based foods. Carbon tax will push meat to levels few can afford. The death of a few animals and insects will be inconsequential.Β None of which is going to happen in the lifetime of anyone currently on PW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 13 hours ago, enfieldspares said: And if sold "at the farm gate" nearly zero miles from maker to consumer with the dairy product. Minus the miles taken to travel to the farm to collect?.... I am totally with you, just pointing that out though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, oowee said: Yep let's carry on as we are for now. As we need more food and reducing carbon, we will move to a more plant based diet and I guess synthetic based foods. Carbon tax will push meat to levels few can afford. The death of a few animals and insects will be inconsequential.Β "The death of a few animals and insects will be inconsequential" Here are some facts, just a "few" animals ? www.statista.com 2021 numbers. 22.8 m lambs and sheep. 9.4m beef cattle 1.1m dairy cattle 4.76m pigs Too many chickens to count (incl domestic ownership) Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just watched it, but couldnβt to the end. He makes some valid points, but heβs let everyone down by talking over her and stifling her input. She would no doubt just have added to the rope with which she could be hung, but talking over someone so they canβt put their point across, isnβt debate.Β He hasnβt shone in my opinion, and just appears to be a harassing bully.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scully said: None of which is going to happen in the lifetime of anyone currently on PW There is so much land around you and me and many othersΒ were crops won't growΒ my cousin is a sheep fell farmers in the lakesΒ now mid 80sΒ done it All his life what are we to do with all this land. It has to be managed as its part of the environment. Eric Bogle wrote a song that sums it up " now I'm easy " https://youtu.be/WYCPXVpO18w Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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