mikehutt Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Any Gunsmiths out there ? just bought a Steyr rifle with a heavy Barrel on . i took the wood off today and there is a rather alarming 'dent' under the rear of the barrel . I assume it is meant to be there but what is it for ? Thanks Mik e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Looks a bit “home made” to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 i wouldnt be happy shooting that until i knew what it was all about ..........if it was supposed to be there ...its bloody untidy...steyr..dont do messy.....be interested to see the outcome of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Looks like start of drilling a hole to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Assuming its not new, what does the stock look like in the same area ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 is that an aluminum sleeve over the barrel......it just looks like alli' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshooter Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) I have seen this once before when a " gunsmith " drilled a hole part way into a barrel to accommodate a C spanner to facilitate the removal of the barrel ! My SSG Sport and SSG Police are clear of any indentations / etc at the point shown in the photo. Edited February 13, 2023 by tonyshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ditchman said: i wouldnt be happy shooting that until i knew what it was all about ..........if it was supposed to be there ...its bloody untidy...steyr..dont do messy.....be interested to see the outcome of this This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 As above I would not be shooting that until it was checked out , It's right on the high pressure area.ask the seller if they know what it's all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 If done AFTER the barrel was proofed the gun is now out of proof and illegal to sell. The fine (if ever the Proof House can be bothered to act) is £5,000. My advice would actually be to contact the Proof House before speaking with the buyer. And send them this picture and a picture of the proof marks on the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevb Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Looks like some amateur has been trying to remove the barrel, witness marks look like they are from a round punch trying to drive it around to screw the barrel out of the receiver... I have just checked my Steyr SSG and it has no such indentation... I would get it checked by a professional.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Hello, I would go back to the seller, ??🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I would go back to the seller, ??🤔 This. First port of call has to be the seller. If this has taken the gun out of proof ( and it’s highly possible it has ) then it was illegal for him to sell you it in the first place, and he has to be made aware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 I have no opinion on this except to say it looks like some bodge job for some reason I cant fathom and without comparison to a standard barrel it would be difficult to say if the barrel strength is compromised .P roof house will no doubt say that as metal has been removed the only way to tell its safety or proof status would be to have it submitted and fired . Just odd the comments about proof , when we get the opposite comments that if a barrel had been threaded for a moderator and if needed proofing or not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 a threaded barrel is different as its not at the very high pressure part of the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 That looks so dodgy to me . No way is that supposed to be there . You can see all the tries and fails of tools on the barrel. I presume to remove it .looks like some one has messed this up and is trying to pull the fast one and flog it onward .be careful how you approach this as the seller could deny all knowledge of this hole and accuse you of doing the damage and trying to sell it back to him . I'd be temped to get an official to look at it first and record the day and time and who it was. - gun shop ,proof house. Feo .get some officialdom behind you first gives you credibility before it goes to the - you said he said . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 6 hours ago, scarecrow243 said: a threaded barrel is different as its not at the very high pressure part of the barrel Its what the Proof Authorities decide , You can not cherry pick .Removal of metal from a barrel is considered by them to potentially weaken a barrels integrity. Drilling holes for scope mounts , or drilling a shotgun barrel to fit a full sleeve moderator could all be considered rendering a gun out of proof . I have dealt with both British Proof Houses for year and have found them to be autocratic and as an RFD had to abide by their decisions . In this case I do not know what the Proof houses would say but as stated previously I expect they they would say it should be reproofed . If the owner is unsure then he should return the gun to the seller and request that he gets a Proof House report as to its legality . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Unless things have changed, there is no obligation by law for anyone to have any firearm re-proofed following work done to any of their firearms. It only becomes an obligation by law if they want to sell said firearm. The firearm can be given or gifted but the law is broken by the seller if said firearm is sold. Some companies ( such as Teague ) undertaking modifications insist on re-proofing as they claim their insurers insist on it, but none of that makes sense given what the law states, but there you go. The OP needs to inform the seller that the gun he sold may be out of proof, and then take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 12/02/2023 at 21:38, mikehutt said: Any Gunsmiths out there ? just bought a Steyr rifle with a heavy Barrel on . i took the wood off today and there is a rather alarming 'dent' under the rear of the barrel . I assume it is meant to be there but what is it for ? Thanks Mik e keep us updated of the outcome please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 Very worrying and also interesting. I look forward to the OPs efforts to find out and a possible full refund from the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 12/02/2023 at 21:38, mikehutt said: Any Gunsmiths out there ? just bought a Steyr rifle with a heavy Barrel on . i took the wood off today and there is a rather alarming 'dent' under the rear of the barrel . I assume it is meant to be there but what is it for ? Thanks Mik e any update on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 I am up my mates later who is RFD who repairs firearms I will show him and see what he says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Looks like the barrel has been drilled by someone who knows very little about drill speeds, pilot holes etc, with a large drill bit. Then, as someone earlier suggested, a C spanner has been used. Note 2 pairs of slip marks clockwise. Very dodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 any update on this thread ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 @mikehutt Did you get an answer to the random drilling?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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