30-6 Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Everybody are really fed up with these Just Stop Oil idiots, why are the government so tolerant ? Why don't they get the water cannons out , or police dogs ? Surely it's an offence to stand in the middle of a highway with moving traffic. Someone is going to get killed with the tension and frustrations that are building up. If the PM was travelling and they turned up, I think the police would up their game to a different level then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Obstructing the public highway is against the law and has been since about 1980 (Highways Act) so the Government has already done what's required. It's down to the police to enforce it but they are afraid of their own shadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith RW Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 We don’t have any water cannons anymore, we sold them off to someone in Europe if I remember correctly as apparently using them was against peoples human rights or something along those lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Keith RW said: We don’t have any water cannons anymore, we sold them off to someone in Europe if I remember correctly as apparently using them was against peoples human rights or something along those lines Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 The police are useless. The public will have to take action themselves. Did you see that protester get a kicking 🤣🤣 They need to be jailed to make them think twice about walking in the road. I hope 1 of them gets run over and killed.. idiots. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Obstructing the public highway is against the law and has been since about 1980 (Highways Act) so the Government has already done what's required. It's down to the police to enforce it but they are afraid of their own shadows. Unfortunately, to my knowledge that's only half the story, I believe there was a piece of case law the crux of which was that didn't necessarily apply to a protest action, hence why plod appear so nervous of immediately taking action, therefore we've got the judges to thank for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, 30-6 said: Everybody are really fed up with these Just Stop Oil idiots, why are the government so tolerant ? Why don't they get the water cannons out , or police dogs ? Surely it's an offence to stand in the middle of a highway with moving traffic. Someone is going to get killed with the tension and frustrations that are building up. If the PM was travelling and they turned up, I think the police would up their game to a different level then. Because they support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 If they are drawing dole then they are not available for work and their money should be stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 hours ago, armsid said: If they are drawing dole then they are not available for work and their money should be stopped These protestors are not typically on the dole. The profile of the protesters is more along the lines of little rich kids and retired librarians etc The protests appear to step up during school/ Uni holiday times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Because the Government are chasing net zero, the ban on new Petrol and Diesel cars for Electric is their number one goal all be it a home goal. I will agree with it when America, China, and Russia do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, countryman said: Because the Government are chasing net zero, the ban on new Petrol and Diesel cars for Electric is their number one goal all be it a home goal. I will agree with it when America, China, and Russia do the same. Virtue signalling, at our expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Controlled opposition - the more they hack people off - the more the public will stand behind them when they put more restrictions on protesting - until we have no right to protest left..... To put it into focus though - look what was done to people marching against the unspecified virus of unknown origins.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, discobob said: Controlled opposition - the more they hack people off - the more the public will stand behind them when they put more restrictions on protesting - until we have no right to protest left..... To put it into focus though - look what was done to people marching against the unspecified virus of unknown origins.... And that one Bob is lurking in the wings? The more freedoms they can remove under the guise of anything is another win for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Greta Turdburg got fined the other day for some protest she joined (probably sat in a road somewhere) and was fined the equivalent of £200. wow. She won’t be doing that again will she! 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I actually do think that we should end reliance on oil and, indeed, on gas. Not for the reasons that "Just Stop Oil" promote but because both underpin pretty nasty regimes such as Russia and Saudi Arabia. We have our own resources to burn to generate electricity and to burn to produce gas. It is called coal. Unfortunately it's never going to happen sufficient to end that reliance on imported oil and imported gas and since Thatcher privatised electricity no privatised electric company will invest in nuclear. So we are right royally kippered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, sutty2006 said: She won’t be doing that again will she! 🙄 Aye - that made a massive dint in her 18 million euro net worth..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, discobob said: Aye - that made a massive dint in her 18 million euro net worth..... Should have fined her 10% of her net income. Be much better then. Then put that money into renewable sources 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 47 minutes ago, sutty2006 said: Should have fined her 10% of her net income. Be much better then. Then put that money into renewable sources 🤣 What a good idea, if they did that to all of them we'd soon have cheap green energy and the Eco idiots can put there money where there mouth is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: What a good idea Be very careful what you wish for - it might come true but not in the way you think.....Tin Foil Hat time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Hello, first offence give them heavy fines and any on benefits take that away, 2nd offence a prison sentence Edited July 28, 2023 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 20 hours ago, Keith RW said: We don’t have any water cannons anymore, we sold them off to someone in Europe if I remember correctly as apparently using them was against peoples human rights or something along those lines Correct. We can thank good old Maggie Thatcher for this, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said: Correct. We can thank good old Maggie Thatcher for this, I believe. I would have thought Maggie would have been amongst the first to advocate their use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said: Correct. We can thank good old Maggie Thatcher for this, I believe. IIRC it was Johnson who bought them when mayor of London and good ole Khan that sold them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith RW Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, steve_b_wales said: Correct. We can thank good old Maggie Thatcher for this, I believe. https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2015-07-15/debates/15071540000005/WaterCannon Just found the above info, it was the then Secretary of State Theresa May that was involved with the decision surrounding water cannons not being authorised for use here in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 If water cannons were ever used against the little luvvies there solicitors would be a queuing up for the compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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