TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Interesting to see that the Mayor of Paris is starting to target big, heavy gas guzzling SUV's within Paris. High parking charges are proposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Interesting to see that the Mayor of Paris is starting to target big, heavy gas guzzling SUV's within Paris. High parking charges are proposed. I think he's got more than those to worry about if the farmers block paris off. The French love to have a good protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 they stick up for them selfs, we just take it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 26 minutes ago, mossy835 said: they stick up for them selfs, we just take it, The French protest while the British que and just pay ! They do a good job of getting there elected gov to react Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Interesting to see that the Mayor of Paris is starting to target big, heavy gas guzzling SUV's within Paris. High parking charges are proposed. apparantly the charges for SUV parking in Paris is to be put at £200/day.............what is worrying is Khan has already spent £20 million of a projected £150 million on pay to drive/buy the mile for London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Time to buy a pony and trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 On 04/02/2024 at 07:29, mellors said: I think he's got more than those to worry about if the farmers block paris off. The French love to have a good protest. She is responsible for banning those awful scooters from the city. She feels it is unneccessary to bring big heavy SUV's with one occupant in to the city. All VERY interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 20 hours ago, armsid said: Time to buy a pony and trap Don’t be silly, a ruddy horse costs more to run than a Range Rover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 17 minutes ago, London Best said: Don’t be silly, a ruddy horse costs more to run than a Range Rover! BUT, it does not get nicked as easily ! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Just now, Westley said: BUT, it does not get nicked as easily ! 😂 Oh! I don't know, our daughter's was stolen from the stable one night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Just now, Westley said: BUT, it does not get nicked as easily ! 😂 True but, being the sickliest animal on the planet it will be less reliable than a RR supposedly is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 At least you can eat it when it breaks down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 In fact it seems top be all (oil fuelled and hybrid) vehicles over 1.6 tons and electric vehicles over 2 tons. That would also include things like Mercedes E class (and bigger) and BMW 5 series and similar larger 'normal' cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMc Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 A point I note, I have a 2013 L200, getting 30mpg... big car, aerodynamics of a brick and I give it the beans. However the wife's car doesn't get much more than this, nor the parents Q5. run of the mill larger cars much of a muchness in consumption (my own observation, this could be complete horse sh!t to everyone else). Just an attack on the cash cow that is the modern motorist, electric, hybrid or standard ICE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, Newbie to this said: At least you can eat it when it breaks down. 👍👍 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Funny thing is it was 54% for the ban on a 5% turnout according to the radio. So 95% couldn't be bothered to vote and will no doubt have a jolly good time protesting all summer long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 On 04/02/2024 at 07:17, TIGHTCHOKE said: Interesting to see that the Mayor of Paris is starting to target big, heavy gas guzzling SUV's within Paris. High parking charges are proposed. I heard the equivalent of £15 per hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Penelope said: I heard the equivalent of £15 per hour Yes, although the item I read said that the minimum period is longer than one hour (6 ?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 I don’t park in Paris. I don’t drive in London either. In fact, I only go into the local city to buy ammo and the shop has a car park. I’m alright Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Shot Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Yet as of the end of 2023 the Paris public transport vehicle fleet was still 46% diesel fueled with 6,675 diesel fueled busses serving the Paris metropolitan area. Just 10% of them were zero emission with 1,536 zero emission buses. The rest is made up of light rail, metro and heavy rail vehicles of non-disclosed fuel types. Localised governments should be leading from the front and not just attacking the private user because its fashionable amongst the inner-city voter. I understand the Paris proposal includes all vehicles of a certain size/ weight category and is purely a 'we hate your expensive, heavy and supposedly polluting private cars' attack on people for whom the alternatives don't stack up unless you penalise them with punitive charges and taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Poor Shot said: I understand the Paris proposal includes all vehicles of a certain size/ weight category and is purely a 'we hate your expensive, heavy and supposedly polluting private cars' attack on people for whom the alternatives don't stack up unless you penalise them with punitive charges and taxes. The French have in the past had a MUCH higher tax rate on engines over about 2.9 litres. Hence there are no (or very very few) French cars with engines bigger than that. Most other makers have made versions with smaller engines (usually around 2.8 litres) to meet the lower French tax bracket. Examples would be; Jaguar, who had a 2.8 version of the original XJ model Mercedes who had 280 (2.8) versions of many models from S, SL and SLK etc which had bigger engines Rover who had the 2600 to supplement the 3500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) Paris is clearly delineated, as Departement 75, by, effectively, the Boulevard Peripherique save for a bit stuck outside to the south-east. It is these people that live within that boundary that were entitled to vote. And they have decided to vote that people living OUTSIDE of that boundary (so therefore non-Parisiens) will pay these charges. Having worked in Paris from 1999 onwards and living there from 2002-2006 and outside from 2015 to 2019 I'd agree. Paris is very congested and, as French car number plates carry the departemental number on it, these affected SUV vehicles will be those that are coming in from outside the city. There's little worse than sitting in a bus (Paris buses are excellent) behind SUV after SUV after SUV none of which are owned by people living in the city! And ditto if you can't find a place to park your car as all the spaces are occupied by folk coming in to Paris. So, yes, I'd agree with that. There's a lot Hildago has done that I don't agree with...she's caused congestion by permanently closing the Pompidou Expressway...but on this and banning electric scooters people are very much in agreement with her. Edited February 7 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 10 hours ago, enfieldspares said: There's little worse than sitting in a bus 100% correct! I could not agree more. Worst form of transport ever devised. I refuse to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Shot Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, London Best said: 100% correct! I could not agree more. Worst form of transport ever devised. I refuse to do it. It's not the vehicle that is the issue. From a technical standpoint busses as machines are quite interesting. The problem is the people who you have to share the vehicle with. Only once it took me having to share a 30 minute bus ride next a man who I can only assume hadn't showered or even washed his *** for a week, had smoked a thousand cigarettes and drank a gallon of cider while waiting for the bus to make me reconsider my choice and take the car instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, London Best said: 100% correct! I could not agree more. Worst form of transport ever devised. I refuse to do it. Oh! Go on, join the twirlies. You know what, you might like the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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