Rob85 Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-68942085 Has this made much of the national or regional news in England? I just hope this doesn't have potential to further mess with the licensing process if the homeowner is a licence holder. Seem quite deja vu with the Tony Martin case  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 I wasn't aware of this story until I read your lenk. Â Sadly I feel this sort of thing will be on the increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 All my sympathy is entirely with the homeowner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 I read it yesterday. Very soon owning your own home will be a 'red flag' for firearms ownership because you might want to defend your property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 I think it was a Farmer defending his site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 It was on our local news, but no mention of aggravated burglary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 it appears he didnt give enough lead to one of them........... echos of tony martin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Don’t steal for a living and this wouldn’t happen, I really can’t feel sympathy for anyone other than the poor chap who was burgled who will likely also have his life ruined by going to prison not to mention other ramifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Looking at the Eccles Road on google maps there is only one farm on that road, more than likely had stuff stolen before, looks like this time he’s taken the law into his own hands, one dead, one wounded and one arrested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Quote from the mail "Chief Superintendent Dave Kirby, of Derbyshire police, said he believed the incident was a 'targeted attack' and there was no wider risk to the public". That to me implies it wasn't a common burglary, they were after something specific they knew was at that property, possibly the farmer was growing a particular type of crop, indoors? I could be completely wide of the mark, it's the "targeted attack" part I find odd. Either way, no sympathy for those shot, I'll reserve judgement on the shooter until we know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Quote from the mail "Chief Superintendent Dave Kirby, of Derbyshire police, said he believed the incident was a 'targeted attack' and there was no wider risk to the public". That to me implies it wasn't a common burglary, they were after something specific they knew was at that property, possibly the farmer was growing a particular type of crop, indoors? I could be completely wide of the mark, it's the "targeted attack" part I find odd. Either way, no sympathy for those shot, I'll reserve judgement on the shooter until we know more. My reading of 'targeted attack' was that the farmer had only acted against those attacking his own property and was not going to go be a danger to anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Quote from the mail "Chief Superintendent Dave Kirby, of Derbyshire police, said he believed the incident was a 'targeted attack' and there was no wider risk to the public". That to me implies it wasn't a common burglary, they were after something specific they knew was at that property, possibly the farmer was growing a particular type of crop, indoors? I could be completely wide of the mark, it's the "targeted attack" part I find odd. Either way, no sympathy for those shot, I'll reserve judgement on the shooter until we know more. Odd? Farms up and down the country are targeted every day for the machinery and live stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 27 minutes ago, Wymondley said: I could be completely wide of the mark, Let's wait and see, I just found it an odd turn of phrase, we can all interpret things differently.  To be clear, if the farmer was just protecting his legal property I'm right behind him, the man deserves a medal.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 40 minutes ago, old'un said: Looking at the Eccles Road on google maps there is only one farm on that road, more than likely had stuff stolen before, looks like this time he’s taken the law into his own hands, one dead, one wounded and one arrested. At least it is one less 'Repeat Offender' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 All my sympathy goes to the farmer he should be a free man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Westley said: At least it is one less 'Repeat Offender'Â ! And I think the other two might think twice about robbing from farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, old'un said: And I think the other two might think twice about robbing from farms. I would like to think that old'un , however for some types it is just an occcupational hazard. Take for instance back in 2021 not half a mile from me, a gang of thugs broke into a local farm demanding money and valubles, they took firearms and shot the farmer at almost point blank range in the thigh and foot, he somehow survived, but sadly lost his foot. What a traumatic experience and a life changing one at that. The gang had targeted other rural properties before for equipment and valuables. That gang are all behind bars now. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 If it transpires that the farm was a regular target and the police response had been poor or non existent will the Chief Constable and the PCC resign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 56 minutes ago, old'un said: And I think the other two might think twice about robbing from farms. I don’t reckon that sort do ‘thinking’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 No doubt the perpetrators will receice a decent compo payout fought for by their defence layer. Wishing the farmer the very best outcome for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Just watching the national news, it's made it.. so wait for the mad reaction from the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Sadly, even if the farmer goes free, I expect there will always be family members of the deceased looking for revenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 2 hours ago, 7daysinaweek said: I would like to think that old'un , however for some types it is just an occcupational hazard. Take for instance back in 2021 not half a mile from me, a gang of thugs broke into a local farm demanding money and valubles, they took firearms and shot the farmer at almost point blank range in the thigh and foot, he somehow survived, but sadly lost his foot. What a traumatic experience and a life changing one at that. The gang had targeted other rural properties before for equipment and valuables. That gang are all behind bars now.  BUT not for long ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-68942085 He was a nice lad 🤢  Yes right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 6 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I wasn't aware of this story until I read your lenk. Â Sadly I feel this sort of thing will be on the increase. Whats a lenk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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