marsh man Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 The young lad who was in One Direction have died after falling from a balcony in Argentina , wasn't into that type of music but it is still sad to lose someone so young . R I P Liam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Again - not a fan, but tragic news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 From what is being said he was on drugs, while it is a tragedy that someone so young has died, i have no time for all the tributes that will now go on saying what an amazing person he was. He had a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 (edited) Another victim of 'the price of fame' Like many before him Edited October 17 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: From what is being said he was on drugs, while it is a tragedy that someone so young has died, i have no time for all the tributes that will now go on saying what an amazing person he was. He had a choice. My thoughts exactly. But RIP anyway, as those around him could have helped 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Crying shame. Mental health issues and their consequences simply aren’t given the gravitas they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 59 minutes ago, ditchman said: Who ? A self inflicted drug abuser that got headline news all stations all night - given more air time than war tragedies around the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 17 Author Report Share Posted October 17 I remember way back when the group first went on Britain's Got Talent or whatever show it was as individuals and came nowhere , Simon Cowell told them to go on as a group and they became pop stars and no doubt very wealthy overnight , the young females went mad and it didn't make a scrap of difference if they could sing or not , they got headline news at the time and now a few years later people are asking who he is , I recon he had a job to handle instant fame and more money he could ever imagine . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 These sort of incidents should be seen by those close to the 'victims', [?]. In this day and age there really shouldn't be an excuse to miss the signs. IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 1 hour ago, ditchman said: Who ? +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Some real hard faced ***** on here I’ve gone through this losing my son n hope one of you have to go through this what ever the circumstances rip liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 20 minutes ago, pork chop said: Some real hard faced ***** on here I’ve gone through this losing my son n hope one of you have to go through this what ever the circumstances rip liam my apologies for appearing hard nosed.......my annoyance stems from all the media outlets covering this for the last 8 or 9 hours (blanket coverage)..........which i think is totally unnessasary.....as many people have never even heard of him and what relevance he has .... it puts everything in perspective when there are far more world changing/event stories that need covering if you mix ...money/fame/sex/drugs/pop music/metal problems..........all together.....you just know it aint going to end well i hope now he has found peace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 14 minutes ago, ditchman said: my apologies for appearing hard nosed.......my annoyance stems from all the media outlets covering this for the last 8 or 9 hours (blanket coverage)..........which i think is totally unnessasary.....as many people have never even heard of him and what relevance he has .... I'll guarantee more let's say under 30s have heard of him than Sir Mike Jackson who died the other day. First thing I thought when I heard what had happened was it'll be drugs, what a waste. The media are covering it because its news, its just not interesting to a group of blokes past 60 or 70 who don't like pop music or boy bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 (edited) 5 hours ago, welsh1 said: From what is being said he was on drugs, while it is a tragedy that someone so young has died, i have no time for all the tributes that will now go on saying what an amazing person he was. He had a choice. As above, and it was disgusting that it made headline news on BBC1 this morning, what with other terrible things happening in the world! 1 hour ago, Mice! said: I'll guarantee more let's say under 30s have heard of him than Sir Mike Jackson who died the other day. First thing I thought when I heard what had happened was it'll be drugs, what a waste. The media are covering it because its news, its just not interesting to a group of blokes past 60 or 70 who don't like pop music or boy bands. Well said. 2 hours ago, pork chop said: Some real hard faced ***** on here I’ve gone through this losing my son n hope one of you have to go through this what ever the circumstances rip liam So have I, when he was 14 years old. But I still think it's disgusting about the amount of media coverage this person had. It was his choice to do what he wanted to do. 2 hours ago, Dave-G said: A self inflicted drug abuser that got headline news all stations all night - given more air time than war tragedies around the world. Edited October 17 by steve_b_wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 so sad so young,R.I.P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 3 hours ago, Scully said: Crying shame. Mental health issues and their consequences simply aren’t given the gravitas they deserve. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 2 hours ago, Mice! said: I'll guarantee more let's say under 30s have heard of him than Sir Mike Jackson who died the other day. First thing I thought when I heard what had happened was it'll be drugs, what a waste. The media are covering it because its news, its just not interesting to a group of blokes past 60 or 70 who don't like pop music or boy bands. This. Those responsible for catering to a bunch of teenaged lads ( or lasses ) who were turned into overnight sensations to their respective generation have a duty of care to those teenagers; locking a 16 year old in their hotel room for their own protection ( with access to a mini bar ) doesn’t quite fulfill that criteria in my opinion. He’s not the first by a long way and sadly won’t be the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 5 hours ago, marsh man said: I remember way back when the group first went on Britain's Got Talent or whatever show it was as individuals and came nowhere , Simon Cowell told them to go on as a group and they became pop stars and no doubt very wealthy overnight , the young females went mad and it didn't make a scrap of difference if they could sing or not , they got headline news at the time and now a few years later people are asking who he is , I recon he had a job to handle instant fame and more money he could ever imagine . MM They all failed their auditions, but Cowell needed a boy group so he put them together and invested millions into promoting them knowing obviously that with enough money pumped into the group even 5 losers could become a cash cow. TBH, you would have to spend an awful lot of time trying to find someone that cares less than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Hello, Since we have seen Simon Cowell on these Talent shows his Wealth has gone sky high but at what cost to the young musicians he signs up ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 1 hour ago, bruno22rf said: They all failed their auditions, but Cowell needed a boy group so he put them together and invested millions into promoting them knowing obviously that with enough money pumped into the group even 5 losers could become a cash cow. TBH, you would have to spend an awful lot of time trying to find someone that cares less than me. Tad ironic then that you went to the trouble of posting with such knowledge about the subject, given that you couldn’t care less. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 59 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: young musicians he signs up Well the ones who did well will be very wealthy. Heath Ledger, Mathew Perry, Liam Payne, sadly despite success we never know what goes on behind closed doors. Some on here need to give their heads a wobble, it doesn't matter that you couldn't care less, I couldn't have said which member of One D was which. But if you've nothing good to say then jog on. Two people at my work committed suicide last month, I've no idea who they were it's a big place, and a bloke at our rugby club, have a think before you type gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Hello, Do you not all think these Music Managers should have a Duty of Care ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 8 minutes ago, Mice! said: Well the ones who did well will be very wealthy. Heath Ledger, Mathew Perry, Liam Payne, sadly despite success we never know what goes on behind closed doors. Some on here need to give their heads a wobble, it doesn't matter that you couldn't care less, I couldn't have said which member of One D was which. But if you've nothing good to say then jog on. Two people at my work committed suicide last month, I've no idea who they were it's a big place, and a bloke at our rugby club, have a think before you type gents. Oh get off your high horse, there are many veterens on here who know of many suicides of mates who had PTSD we hear of someone on an almost weekly basis, some of us have seen things that we wouldn't wish on our worst enemies This was a lad who chased fame, then decided to do drugs and died, and while his death as i have said is sad, lets not start the idol worship, the tv and press have elevated him to near saint hood, he's not a person i would want my grandkids to look up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 17 Author Report Share Posted October 17 16 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Do you not all think these Music Managers should have a Duty of Care ???? I think there will always be a certain amount of the blame game , we see and hear about it everyday when someone takes his or her own life and you get the health workers could had done more to prevent it , but there is only so much that anyone can do , if you want to take your life then there are plenty of ways in doing it and the health workers cannot look after these people 24 hrs a day . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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