blondie1973 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Hi All, Does anyone else suffer with this problem, I shoot over a fairly large farm in the medway area of kent and the farmer lets a couple of local lads shoot (although by all accounts they just want to let rip with a gun) last week i popped up for my usual visit only to find aprox 50-60 empty cartridge cases in the gateways, i have a good relationship with the farmer (he's my wife's uncle) and im always consious of picking all rubbish up and using the correct cartridges (the empties i found were plastic wad 9's skeet cartriges) seems all they are doing is scaring the birds and making a mess. steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 rather than slating them, why not meet up, and try to educate them on being a better shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 rather than slating them, why not meet up, and try to educate them on being a better shooter i do agree with educating them about cartridge choice and sportsmanship etc.,But surely they dont need to be educated in how not to be slobs and throw cartridges all over the place its people like that who give shooters a bad name theres no excuse for leaving shells lying around its just pure lazyness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 maybe if they spent a day with someone and learnt the better ways of doing things, they'd enjoy it more. But who does that responsibility really fall on? Quick side question, what do you guys do with your empty shells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I take them home and put them in the bin or reload them. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 The types that leave spent cartridges around the farms are probably the same ones that can't take their fishing rubbish home with them either. Its not a question of education, unless you know how to change someone's genes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I share my ground with at least 10 others, there is one bloke who seems to leave all his empties and boxes stuffed down holes or flung behind a hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzrat Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 pick mine up and bin them at home, also gives me a shots to birds average, not that I really want to know how expensive those 3 pigeons were sometimes Fuzrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 i all ways take mine home and bin them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 what do you guys do with your empty shells? Put them in the wheely bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I share my ground with at least 10 others, there is one bloke who seems to leave all his empties and boxes stuffed down holes or flung behind a hedge I have picked up a few of this mans emptys aswell takes the **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) I don't shoot in the field, but you see plenty of these ****heads at the clay ground - usually arrogant t***s, with comments like "Thats what the ground are paid for" or "that's the trapper's job". ********* - idiots(thanks for the censorship, mods - sorry for the bad language ) the lot of them, it is just simple good manners, they wouldn't like it if they slipped on a dumped shell and bounced their gun on the stand, or even worse, someone got hurt. I usually shoot an O/U and it is easy to catch the shells and bin/pocket them, my mate shoots a semi-auto and he got a basic telescopic magnetic pick-up tool from fleabay for about £2, he picks up his empties when I take my turn, we lose about 2 minutes over a mornings practice. I know it is different when there is a competition on and the ground staff pick up the empties to keep the squads moving, but on practice days - no excuse ! Sorry for the rant, but I have walking problems and a concrete stand littered with empties is like a skating rink . Edited January 9, 2011 by Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 In my opinion if you can carry them into the field you can carry them out again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I went on a blokes permission with him about 2 months ago.we got through about 50 carts,while packing up I collected them all and carried on putting my stuff away,i went for the empties and he'd chucked them over a hedge,we had words and he got the butt with me 'cos i picked them out again,he didn't get it?bit of a pain as he hasn't invited me on his land since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam f Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Just as bad as throwing rubbish out of a car window IMO. If you are given access to the countryside to shoot, then picking up a few empty shells is the very least you can do. That said, the only thing I really, really hate about my Semi-Auto is the way it throws the things around the place - my O/U is easy, the Semi makes the end of the day a real hunt - Ive now started using red or white shells in the semi to make picking up after easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOCKY A391 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 In my opinion if you can carry them into the field you can carry them out again +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 +1 +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berties Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Always pick up,it's your responsibility to despose of them whether clays or live shooting,semis are a pain but a extendable picker up don't take up much room, yes the odd one gets away but no excuse for acting like a slob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy518 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I have an extenable magnet picker up jobby....It only takes a matter of minutes to pick up the empties, take em home and stick them in the wheelie bin. All we leave behind on our permissions is footprints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Funny, I was only moaning about this yesterday. The guys that shoot on my dad's land chuck their empties over the fence or into the hedge. Only 15yds away from their usual dumping spot is a big bonfire/rubbish heap. I don't get it... Shame they don't make paper carts anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have never understood the complete cocks at clay grounds who eject their shells all over the place when standing next to the bin, usually hopeless shots and loud mouthed doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percypigeonshooter Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 i always pick up my empties and take home u should have respect for peoples property were we shoot i had a shooting partner who used to toss empties all over the place dont have that prob no more got rid much easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have never understood the complete cocks at clay grounds who eject their shells all over the place when standing next to the bin, usually hopeless shots and loud mouthed doc Like Cranfield said Its not a question of education, unless you know how to change someone's genes. Just look at the grandparents, parents and siblings. You'll normally see a similar behaviour trait. Like begats like. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucolic Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Always take mine home, my farmer would go mental if I left any carts or dead birds behind, permission is hard enough to get always look after it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I have an extenable magnet picker up jobby....It only takes a matter of minutes to pick up the empties, take em home and stick them in the wheelie bin. All we leave behind on our permissions is footprints. Me too, although last time I did leave an impressively sized dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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