Zapp Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 First I'm not your " Dear " and calm down about what! !!!! OK, first of all I'm pretty sure dunkield was being lighthearted. That was lost on you so I won't be. Either express yourself without laying into people or don't do it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I do a fair bit of Canada Goose work, there are seldom any issues dealing with them under the terms of the GL. My WMR is my primary Canada removal rifle! The Government gives defined reasons to control Canada, and they can be controlled at any time of year, and for no reason whatsoever in season. If some people don't understand that, or don't like it, may I suggest they write to their MP rather than giving those with a legitimate and legal job to do a hard time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I do a fair bit of Canada Goose work, there are seldom any issues dealing with them under the terms of the GL. My WMR is my primary Canada removal rifle! The Government gives defined reasons to control Canada, and they can be controlled at any time of year, and for no reason whatsoever in season. If some people don't understand that, or don't like it, may I suggest they write to their MP rather than giving those with a legitimate and legal job to do a hard time! Hi Dekers, what sort of distances do you use the Wmr on geese at, I am using 22 hornet at @100 yds on them, obviously this is more than enough power but was also looking at going down to wmr or 17 hornet in the near future. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 OK, first of all I'm pretty sure dunkield was being lighthearted. That was lost on you so I won't be. Either express yourself without laying into people or don't do it at all. Brilliant. Rod of Iron. I do a fair bit of Canada Goose work, there are seldom any issues dealing with them under the terms of the GL. My WMR is my primary Canada removal rifle! The Government gives defined reasons to control Canada, and they can be controlled at any time of year, and for no reason whatsoever in season. If some people don't understand that, or don't like it, may I suggest they write to their MP rather than giving those with a legitimate and legal job to do a hard time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Funny old world. I, as a farmer and land manager find that most, if not all, crop/stock damage occures during the time of year when animals happen to breed and have young. Are you really suggesting that pests should not be controlled during the time of year they cause most damage. Some land manager you'd make. As far as Canada Geese are concerned, the best way to cull them is round them up during the flightless breeding period and cull the lot in one foul swoop. if they were shot between next 1st sept and jan 31st then i'm pretty sure the birds that have been shot would not be a problem next year,simple isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 if they were shot between next 1st sept and jan 31st then i'm pretty sure the birds that have been shot would not be a problem next year,simple isn't it Are you a shooter, what is your quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hi Dekers, what sort of distances do you use the Wmr on geese at, I am using 22 hornet at @100 yds on them, obviously this is more than enough power but was also looking at going down to wmr or 17 hornet in the near future. S I'm easy up to 100 yards, certainly a bit more at times, I've never really had the need to take them much over 100 yards! The WMR is an excellent Canada pest control rifle, I use the WMR 30g V-Max, you can hit them anywhere you like that is a bit important, and from any direction, and they fall down. If I want some for the table it is pinpoint head shots most commonly with the HMR. The HMR is ok for pest control, but you have to be much more careful with shot placement than the WMR. In the right circumstances I have also been known to use .22LR and subs, these certainly have their moments and situations, but it is seldom my first choice for Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Funny old world. I, as a farmer and land manager find that most, if not all, crop/stock damage occures during the time of year when animals happen to breed and have young. Are you really suggesting that pests should not be controlled during the time of year they cause most damage. Some land manager you'd make. As far as Canada Geese are concerned, the best way to cull them is round them up during the flightless breeding period and cull the lot in one foul swoop. Should that not be one Fowl swoop ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Everyone understands that pest control needs to be carried out but when people ask for advice on dispatching Canada's out of season rather than ask about how they might be able to scare or prevent them being nuisance without shooting them can get peoples backs up. We all know that they are on the GL and can be shot out of season but for some of us to shoot geese out of season is a last and I mean last resort . But I'm a wildfowler through and through so my opinion is biased . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 if they were shot between next 1st sept and jan 31st then i'm pretty sure the birds that have been shot would not be a problem next year,simple isn't it How niave can you get. What about the damage and loss of income they are causing NOW. If a bunch of rats were munching the pound notes in your wallet today would you leave them be untill the winter when they have no dependant young. No, I thought not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 How niave can you get. What about the damage and loss of income they are causing NOW. If a bunch of rats were munching the pound notes in your wallet today would you leave them be untill the winter when they have no dependant young. No, I thought not. if you had shot them between last september to january then perhaps you would not have had the problem now, i would have shot the rats last winter so they would not be in my wallet today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) if you had shot them between last september to january then perhaps you would not have had the problem now, i would have shot the rats last winter so they would not be in my wallet today! You are aware that canadas migrate and move around right??? Last "season" i saw a flock 200 strong on maize stubble.. I cant reload fast enough to shoot 200 to allow the farmers to produce this years crops and golfers to walk the fairways without **** the size of which a large dog does all over the place.. Also just because the OP has asked how to cull does not mean scare tactics have not been used. He had a question, he asked it, no need hearing the life story of how he may of tried to scare them away... Edited May 26, 2016 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Funny old world. As far as Canada Geese are concerned, the best way to cull them is round them up during the flightless breeding period and cull the lot in one foul swoop. Should that not be one Fowl swoop ? Neither. It is "one fell swoop" the origins of which are thought to be Shakespeare's Macbeth and the slaughter of the Macduff family. But when referring to geese, the play on words of "fowl" is v funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 ....................... As far as Canada Geese are concerned, the best way to cull them is round them up during the flightless breeding period and cull the lot in one foul swoop. Totally agree with this one, and I've had the opportunity to do it several times. It's still not quite as easy as many may think, (or perhaps I just need more practice) but it is very effective. Unfortunately, as CharlieT and others have pointed out, issues arise with the Canada throughout the year, and this isn't always a practical option! The Canada always seems to promote a wide range of views, commonly quite extreme. There are those that will not shoot baby bunnies, or young foxes, etc., although very few are pest controllers, and I don't ever remember anyone complaining, or refusing to remove a Wasp nest because it was full of young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Neither. It is "one fell swoop" the origins of which are thought to be Shakespeare's Macbeth and the slaughter of the Macduff family. But when referring to geese, the play on words of "fowl" is v funny. That Sir, is one first rate post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) if you had shot them between last september to january then perhaps you would not have had the problem now, i would have shot the rats last winter so they would not be in my wallet today! Imagine the sheer outrage from some members if a few dozen Geese were carted away in a trailer. Edited May 27, 2016 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Thats what i was tinking if i remember i think someone on here did just that and it caused outrage If they dont cause damage then they wont be shot as they do in winter time we shooters dont go around shooting everything just because there is no closed season on them same a Foxes if i get a call and they are doing damage then they got to go but i dont go looking for them this time of year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 If Canadas pose a risk on a fishery to the number one animal on the planet by way of transmission by faeces of E coli ,Campylobactor,Samonela ,Listeria etc they should be culled at any time of the year .Keeping The Balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Canada Geese can be shot all year round, and can be taken using a rifle. This came from BASC when I asked them about it, because a farmer I know was having his crop virtually destroyed by them. Can you shoot them with a .22lr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Can you shoot them with a .22lr? Yes, it is legal and there are times, but see my #32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 If a pest is causing damage and is legal to shoot them on the GL year round what's the problem? If you scare them they will only come back? If an animal is being a pest and causing damage/loss of earnings I am more than happy to help out. Sometimes I may not really enjoy it however it is PEST CONTROL at the end of the day. Rats, rabbits, squirrels, foxes, geese? If they are causing that much damage and you can shoot them legally I say crack on 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallowbuck Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) If they are a problem then cull them.They are an alien introduced species,so whats the problem?It makes sense to cull them at breeding time as you have the most impact!Just as with deer in young,some dislike it but its more humane to take the does when pregnant than with fawns/Kids at heel! Edited June 3, 2016 by fallowbuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 At this time of year a lot of geese will have goslings at heel. If they are a problem then cull them.They are an alien introduced species,so whats the problem?It makes sense to cull them at breeding time as you have the most impact!Just as with deer in young,some dislike it but its more humane to take the does when pregnant than with fawns/Kids at heel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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