Vince Green Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 A lot of the votes were incredibly tight in many of the constituencies. Zac Goldsmith got in by 45 votes, the Conservatives lost many seats by very small margins. The student vote tipped the balance in a lot of places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 bet corbyn is breathing a sigh of relief ...........as he now does not have to honour all the impossible promises he made............ defo another election on the cards....Boris as PM...........dont know wether that is a good or bad thing........... and he has cemented his place as leader of the labour party. his position is very strong now, so he can keep spouting on **** for the 'i want stuff for free' brigade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Boris for pm? The man who was totally anti-uber until a few of his chums stuck several million into it and he shut up and did as he was told, not exactly the strong leadership people seem to be asking for although I can't see may keeping her position after dropping such a huge ******* out of nothing other than sheer arrogance, I don't follow politics so after bj who is next in line for the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 What a mess, with the combinations to form some sort of strong coalition not there, I suspect calling a new Election will be the outcome. This ^^^ Sick as I am of the whole electioneering thing I fear we are going to go through the whole thing again, Corbyn tried and succeeded to a point of bribing people with free stuff but realistically had no means of paying for any of it, At least Wee Mary Doll had her nose bloodied as well and Salmond lost his seat to the tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 the future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Lot of people looking for excuses why May wasn't successful, she only has her self to blame. I said at the beginning, she shot herself in the foot, coupled this with the Dementia Tax, not appearing in Debates, Sheer Arrogance, more Austerity, & trying to make the election all around Brexit. Corbyn didn't have much to do to counteract it, just promise the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 In the vein of Bremainers, can we run this again until we get the result that we want? If Corbyn does get in with Abbott at his side then I may just seriously consider emigrating to Australia. I would quite like Canada but feel that is too liberal for me. Or I could just hide under a rock until it's all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) I think what did it for May was down to the Terrorist attacks and the fact they it was her in charge of when the police was cut so badly 1000 firearms police lost and over 10.000 PCs gone people will put up with a lot but when they start getting killed they will not except it. I note that although the Conservatives got about 50 more MPs than Labour the number of people that voted for both parties was about the same much like UKIP last time 5mill people voted for them but they only ended up with one MP to represent them. She called this election to lose it and deliberately scupper Brexit, no two ways about it. She is owned by higher powers. Edited June 9, 2017 by JRDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 She called this election to lose it and deliberately scupper Brexit, no two ways about it. She is owned by higher powers. That's a perspective I haven't heard before, but they are all owned by the rich folk that pay for their campaigns aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour engaged with the younger voters, our local polling office was like a student union meeting!! All because they got told they could have something for nothing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 May's campaign was utterly appalling, she didn't engage, she was evasive and arrogant and it was all about what other people were not instead of what she is. My fear is another GE within 9 months. I would agree with most of that, though I can't blame her completely. Her strategy team would have directed the campaign and I honestly, honestly believe I could have done a better job myself. It was a disaster from start to finish. I think you're right about another GE in the near future, but if the Tories are to win they would have to ditch May, she's damaged goods now. Boris is too divisive... maybe we could pinch Ruth Davidson? She seems to have done a hell of a job north of the border, doesn't seem to have any real 'baggage' and is pretty tenacious in debate. My only worry with her is that she was a remainer, though she does seem to have accepted the result now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I do like Ruth Davis tenacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I would agree with most of that, though I can't blame her completely. Her strategy team would have directed the campaign and I honestly, honestly believe I could have done a better job myself. It was a disaster from start to finish. I think you're right about another GE in the near future, but if the Tories are to win they would have to ditch May, she's damaged goods now. Boris is too divisive... maybe we could pinch Ruth Davidson? She seems to have done a hell of a job north of the border, doesn't seem to have any real 'baggage' and is pretty tenacious in debate. My only worry with her is that she was a remainer, though she does seem to have accepted the result now. Yes I think Ruth Davidson's stock has risen dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 All because they got told they could have something for nothing..Given the option of the other party who said they could have nothing but it would cost them everything can you blame them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Lot of people looking for excuses why May wasn't successful, she only has her self to blame. I said at the beginning, she shot herself in the foot, coupled this with the Dementia Tax, not appearing in Debates, Sheer Arrogance, more Austerity, & trying to make the election all around Brexit. Correct, she didn't appear in debates because she knew she couldn't spin fast enough without the msm behind her. The only reason the conservatives books are easy to balance is because they're promising more austerity and offering to rob you blind as you get close to dying. A hamster could balance them books. Corbyn has so far managed to blow away all his critics time and again, to do so well in a media rigged election is rather extraordinary and an indication that you can't fool enough people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Well at the moment I keep bursting out laughing at the scenario the Tory's are in and lets be completely honest its self inflicted! Not sad (others will disagree but that's democracy) at the apparent demise of UKIP although I do accept if Nigel Farrage comes back it may change. Well even more "wait and see" than before, this time though not only on Brexit, but on Parliament itself. Cheers Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I would agree with most of that, though I can't blame her completely. Her strategy team would have directed the campaign and I honestly, honestly believe I could have done a better job myself. It was a disaster from start to finish. I think you're right about another GE in the near future, but if the Tories are to win they would have to ditch May, she's damaged goods now. Boris is too divisive... maybe we could pinch Ruth Davidson? She seems to have done a hell of a job north of the border, doesn't seem to have any real 'baggage' and is pretty tenacious in debate. My only worry with her is that she was a remainer, though she does seem to have accepted the result now. A very deliberate disaster to end Brexit in all but name if even that now. DD already chirping we need to remain in the Single Market which equals remain in the EU. We have been shafted big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db135 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Glad the snp got abit of a hammering might not hear Jimmy cranky banging on relentlessly about another Scottish independence vote. You had it and they voted remain deal with it 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) I wonder if Jeremy Corbyn attended the Diane Abbott School for Mathematic Geniuses. Labour lost the election, the Tories won. Not with an increased majority, but a reduced one. They still have more MPs than Labour, SNP and the Lib Dems put together. A disaster for Theresa May, a disaster for Nicola Sturgeon and hardly a victory for Jeremy Corbyn. He did better than I and many others expected, but he still lost. The Tories have several quick fixes:- The so called Dementia Tax - dump it. It actually quadrupled the present allowance, but highlighted a situation most people had not faced. Replace Theresa May - Boris is a non-starter. I admit to being impressed by Ruth Davidson. Fight the next campaign with their whole team - not a presidential style campaign consisting only Theresa May. I had to laugh at Jeremy Corbyn and others calling for Theresa May to go. Will he resign? His claim to fame is that he didn't lose by as many as predicted. Hardly a recipe for winning a future election. He will be older and Diane Abbott's health will have recovered. Edited June 9, 2017 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Too late, I have already taken residence under the rock! In the vein of Bremainers, can we run this again until we get the result that we want? If Corbyn does get in with Abbott at his side then I may just seriously consider emigrating to Australia. I would quite like Canada but feel that is too liberal for me. Or I could just hide under a rock until it's all over. Edited June 9, 2017 by Smokersmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Gordon, Corbyn has every reason to be deliriously happy. He's outperformed expectations but he hasn't actually won, so he can stay in opposition, sniping from the sidelines without actually having any responsibility to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) May is undoubtably a lame duck and as much as I enjoy BoJo i think he is a busted flush as far as the big job goes now.Ruth will certainly be strongly touted as an option, but despite her role as leader of the official opposition in Scotland she has no experience of a UK ministerial role and that might count against her.I think she is an excellent politician and has actually had a harder run of things in having to contend with the shockingly poor May campaign.Poontang I agree entirely that her campaign team and, I believe, her inner circle of advisors have sold her very badly. She has looked like a woman completely out of place.As for JC he didn't get thumped in the results as many expected, but he is also a very very long way away from winning.The poorest campaign by a standing PM ever, as seems to be the opinion by most pundits, and JC is still woefully short of anything resembling a parliamentary share to legitimately propose to form a government. Edited June 9, 2017 by grrclark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arley Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 All because they got told they could have something for nothing.. Agree, polling station is very near our local college and it became a focal point for the students to meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 So what`s the best outcome we can hope for now and when do we find out what the way forward is? I don`t want to see May step down yet, Corbyn wouldn't leave after a no faith vote so why should she, as others have said she had to go with the advise of her team, her campaign isn't all her own doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Agree, polling station is very near our local college and it became a focal point for the students to meet. Two Blue seats in south that are uni cities are waking up red today... And the reason for have nothing but pay for it is the past governments that borrowed and allowed the banks to rule. Unfortunately both parties can be blamed for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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