Sparticle Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://www.eleyhawkltd.com/media-events/press-releases/eley-hawk-launches-the-first-disolvable-and-biodegradeable-wad- Thought I'd leave this here, couldn't see anyone else post about it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 thats cool. looks like they are gearing up for steel only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 All good apart from the price 😵 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraai Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Mirage clever also have a steel cart wit a biodegradeabel wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Given the components in a shell, it seems a drastic, unjustifiable overall price rise, because of one part. Rip off springs to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, super sharp shooter said: All good apart from the price 😵 Looks good. How much are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, oowee said: Looks good. How much are they? Agreed looks great .... £35-00 a 100 ... I wonder if this type of wad will become available to homeloaders. also the wad will still be visible to the general public when out for a walk [albeit for 3 weeks] so still something for them to moan about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, islandgun said: Agreed looks great .... £35-00 a 100 ... I wonder if this type of wad will become available to homeloaders. also the wad will still be visible to the general public when out for a walk [albeit for 3 weeks] so still something for them to moan about So maybe £300 a 1000? I would give them a go at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 There was a biodegradable wad available about 25 - 30 years ago, it’s so long ago I’m struggling to remember the cartridge manufacturer - think it was Winchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Bio wad Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Positive step in the right direction, I will definitely be on the look out for these 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 There could be a small problem with the introduction of these wads, at present there is no ban on using lead, now if the tree huggers see these they could argue the case for a ban on lead, as the wads could be used with steel thus removing two environmental problems, lead and plastic. Bloody expensive though, £350 per thousand, don’t think I will be using them on the pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, old'un said: There could be a small problem with the introduction of these wads, at present there is no ban on using lead, now if the tree huggers see these they could argue the case for a ban on lead, as the wads could be used with steel thus removing two environmental problems, lead and plastic. Bloody expensive though, £350 per thousand, don’t think I will be using them on the pigeons. I can’t see that really. There is currently no campaign for a ban on plastic wads on an environmental basis, nor indeed for one on lead. The case for a lead ban was based on its toxicity regarding a health risk, both to game and those who ate it, rather than its impact on the environment, and is what the current legislation regarding fowl is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Scully said: I can’t see that really. There is currently no campaign for a ban on plastic wads on an environmental basis, nor indeed for one on lead. The case for a lead ban was based on its toxicity regarding a health risk, both to game and those who ate it, rather than its impact on the environment, and is what the current legislation regarding fowl is all about. Indeed, the only people i see campaigning against plastic wads are all inside the shooting community already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Kent had a biodegradable wad before they were bought out by Gamebore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Kent had a biodegradable wad before they were bought out by Gamebore! Kent own Gamebore, wrong way round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 There has been a photo degradable in there VIP range for some time so what's the difference and it's cheaper than fibre in the 20 bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, 8 shot said: There has been a photo degradable in there VIP range for some time so what's the difference and it's cheaper than fibre in the 20 bore Photo wad is plastic made from maize, rather than plastic made from oil. By degrade they don't mean used up and converted into other forms but break up faster into small pieces, exactly what the various bans in plastic is trying to prevent to protect the marine environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 10 hours ago, johnnytheboy said: Kent own Gamebore, wrong way round! Okay, the Kent I remember was a small outfit in East Peckham in Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Looks like progress to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) Looks like a mix of polymerised starch , glycerine, wax and one or more binders and pectin with other substances such as amylose to enable a quick breakdown of binders. Edited February 16, 2019 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Stonepark said: Looks like a mix of polymerised starch , glycerine, wax and one or more binders and pectin with other substances such as amylose to enable a quick breakdown of binders. Tasty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 14 hours ago, grrclark said: Indeed, the only people i see campaigning against plastic wads are all inside the shooting community already. Some landowners apparently... in time just about everyone that would prefer to see less plastic laying around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I suppose you could say that Eley have been resting on their laurels since 1908 - the name 'Grand Prix' deriving from Paris in 1903, so it's about time they pulled something else out of the hat. I bet there's wailing and gnashing of teeth in Hull and places East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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