Dekers Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) You will not get much quieter than a .22lr with subs and moderator! Horses are unpredictable, some ignore everything and others bolt if you cough. These just wanted a good sniff! Edited February 15, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Sharpe Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Cheers Guys, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dekers said: You will not get much quieter than a .22lr with subs and moderator! Horses are unpredictable, some ignore everything and others bolt if you cough. These just wanted a good sniff! That’s one lovely horse. My daughter would love that one, and the grey behind to that matter lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 When I saw the title of this post I was going to reply " I think you need something a little more powerful" 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 My wife's horses live in a paddock, separated from a clay shoot by a thin by of trees and don't even flinch so I wouldn't worry about it too much! Have the time the owners are more worried than the horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 You could try and desensitize the horses over a few weeks and see how it goes before going out at night, it may help. Horses will spook and bolt at the slightest thing, one recently on an estate her me bolted for no apparent reason, smashed into post and rail fencing smashing the top rail, that punctured it's chest and went through to the opposite side through both lungs. It was still alive hours after standing in the field with the broken fence embedded into its chest. Vet was called and put to sleep on the vets arrival. A horrific injury and no idea what could have spooked the horse. They are flighty animals by nature, just be careful. And just for an experiment for all you who say you can't hear 22 lr bullets, get an adult to fire one in your direction out in a filed at about 50-70 yards away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dougy said: You could try and desensitize the horses over a few weeks and see how it goes before going out at night, it may help. Horses will spook and bolt at the slightest thing, one recently on an estate her me bolted for no apparent reason, smashed into post and rail fencing smashing the top rail, that punctured it's chest and went through to the opposite side through both lungs. It was still alive hours after standing in the field with the broken fence embedded into its chest. Vet was called and put to sleep on the vets arrival. A horrific injury and no idea what could have spooked the horse. They are flighty animals by nature, just be careful. And just for an experiment for all you who say you can't hear 22 lr bullets, get an adult to fire one in your direction out in a filed at about 50-70 yards away. This happened to me. One evening i was waiting in the dunes waiting for the rabbits to emerge and two strangers turned up and took a shot with a 22 at a rabbit i hadnt seen, Im not sure if it was a ricochet or normal but it was loud humming/ whistling sound. ! ......I left just after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Assume you have an open license or the ground is cleared is my first question?? I shoot occasionally in my wood which bounds on fields with some expensive brood mares and young foals. I can fire two or three shots to zero and they don't blink. I drive down the ride on my Kubota mower and they bolt in all directions ..... the next day they will do the opposite, so what has been said is true , they are animals of flight and have an inbuilt reaction to flee from anything they percieve as about to eat them. Not knowing the ground, then what I would look at is finding the most lucrative spot and put up a high seat covering this area. This will make shooting the rim fire that much safer. Have a chat with the owner and perhaps arrange for the horses to be stabled for a c.ouple of hours when your there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Sharpe Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Assume you have an open license or the ground is cleared is my first question?? I shoot occasionally in my wood which bounds on fields with some expensive brood mares and young foals. I can fire two or three shots to zero and they don't blink. I drive down the ride on my Kubota mower and they bolt in all directions ..... the next day they will do the opposite, so what has been said is true , they are animals of flight and have an inbuilt reaction to flee from anything they percieve as about to eat them. Not knowing the ground, then what I would look at is finding the most lucrative spot and put up a high seat covering this area. This will make shooting the rim fire that much safer. Have a chat with the owner and perhaps arrange for the horses to be stabled for a c.ouple of hours when your there This land is part of my permission and is cleared, so no issues with that. I like the high seat idea, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Anyone who knows Haimwood sporting would have seen, up until the last 18 months or so, a large number of different horses right next door to the shooting range. On the whole they never cared about the shooting at all. And sundays were noisy old days at Haimwood. Even when I rode past the shooting ground they never really bothered. And I had some right horrible lunatics that probably needed to be on the sharp end of a shotgun! It’s mainly the owners that are the problem. Edited February 15, 2019 by Benthejockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I use the hmr all the time in the same field but the owner shoots too. Never had a problem but I am shooting the other way. I walk on the one farm and they kick off just seeing it. As dougy said . A 22lr isn’t to quiet when it’s flying at you . I had a ricochet fly directly at me and it was so loud with the wizz. Hit the ground next to me 😮 brown pants moments. Hit a stone I think after the bunny was hit. I’m guessing it deflected it so be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 If they are stabled I found it useful to let them see I am there before shooting as daft as it sounds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Sharpe Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I spoke to the landowner this afternoon and he and his wife have no issue with the .22lr being used around the stables and on the paddocks, as he uses a shotgun out there from time to time, and the horses don't react to that noise. Also they have now asked that try to reduce the rabbits in the gardens as well. I am very aware that this round can ricochet so will be careful. If this works out, I might be putting a BSA Scorpion and filling cylinder on the selling thread, Thank you all for your assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Major Sharpe said: I spoke to the landowner this afternoon and he and his wife have no issue with the .22lr being used around the stables and on the paddocks, as he uses a shotgun out there from time to time, and the horses don't react to that noise. Also they have now asked that try to reduce the rabbits in the gardens as well. I am very aware that this round can ricochet so will be careful. If this works out, I might be putting a BSA Scorpion and filling cylinder on the selling thread, Thank you all for your assistance. Don’t do that, its **** law that in the future you will need it, wouldn’t be without mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longstrider Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 A .22 rimmy firing sub-sonics through a good moderator usually doesn't spook the gee-gees, but if you feel you'd like to go even quieter, look at getting yourself some .22 shorts like the Dynamit Nobel Z-Lang ammo. It's no good in semi-autos as it lacks the punch to cycle the action, and you'll need to check your zero and allow a little more elevation for those longer shots (learn your new trajectory ) but that stuff is as quiet as a quiet thing that's trying to be quiet whilst providing the performance of a good FAC air rifle or better. https://rws-munition.de/en/rws-sportshooting-area/rws-sport-ammunition/rws-rimfire-cartridges-for-sport-shooters/Product/show/rws-z-lang.html#!0/278/52 I shot bunnies on the paddocks of a couple of very posh stud farms for years and some of those top-end Ferrari race horses are as skittish as a paranoid schizophrenic on speed, but I never had any problems with them spooking at the shot with Z-Langs. Mind you, if they suddenly noticed me emerge from behind a shed or from a ditch they often acted like I'd whalloped them with a electrified carpet beater Ruddy things are mad. One end bites and t'other end kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 15/02/2019 at 15:25, chrisv said: I've been asked to do the same as you around horses. Using a moderated 223 in the field with horses, they couldn't care less. They were even coming up and sniffing my boots. The next time they were in the stable and they went nuts. We were asked not to go again! They are such unpredictable beasts that you have to take each situation individually. I would think that a 22lr would be OK, but I'd prefer it if the horses could see where the noise was coming from. You will find they will react worse in the stable. As they cant see what madethe noise or where it came from. Also will harm themselves in stable so owners do get a bit funny if you spook them, vet bills are not small for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Sharpe Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, old'un said: Don’t do that, its **** law that in the future you will need it, wouldn’t be without mine. Very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I've given up trying to shoot my airgun in next doors field if the horse are there. Not because they spook but the damn things follow me about like giant dog's. The last time I tried to put the cross hairs on a rabbit all I could feel was the horses breath inches from my neck giving me a sniff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPAS 15 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 John Wayne never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Try using reduced power .22 rounds auxh as zlang or shorts ..at shortranges work out at about 40 foot pounds which is the same as an fac air rifle https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/ammunition/the-advantages-of-reduced-load-22-rimfire-ammunition-53707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 I shoot around ours with 22lr eley subs, some days they just stand and watch, other days they go crazy. Oddly they are fine with shotguns. I think it’s the noise of the round hitting the rabbit that is more problematic than the firing of the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Sharpe Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Well, the horses were in the stables tonight looking out and watching. There was no issue at all. Thank you all for your thoughts and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
452 solution Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I shoot fields close to horses with subs and moderator, no problem at all, just be mindful of ricochets. Horses don’t even flinch . 🤠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I shoot on a farm where the calf’s are a ruddy pest keep following me all round the fields I can take a shot with the 17 hornet and the dont bat a eyelid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 As I said earlier.... Horses are unpredictable, some ignore everything and others bolt if you cough. Potentially there is a considerable difference from site to site as well. Same with these...… they were not to happy last night with every shot, but soon came back to look....they are quite young bulls who think they are hard, they made a few charges at me yesterday but as soon as I turned round and went Booooohhh they turned and ran off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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