Ridgeway Redneck Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, Jelly said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chris-Packhams-Two-Headed-Tadpole-Excellent-condition/382926130934 Chris has decided to sell his 'woodcock' to raise money for Wild Justice... That has really made me chuckle!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Edit Edited April 29, 2019 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clodhopper Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 I have decided to embrace the attitude of Packham And Avery. Through the powers of You Tube (they have real pigeons you know) I have begun a course on pigeon communication enabling me to simply ask the birds to stop damaging whatever crop they are eating. Now, here is the sneaky bit, once they have denied my verbal request, which I anticipate they might, I will simply shoot them, all legal and above board. Maybe I am just off my rocker along with Packham and Avery.🤪🤪🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) You do have a "Report Item" button on Ebay, it's to the right hand side half way down, If you for example come across something of an "Adult Nature"....... Edited April 29, 2019 by Dibble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 The registration with NE and the Application for the appropriate licence is the only way you can use the new general licence. Yes or no.? Is this it now is this the permanent situation from now on, yes or no? if NO! are we now going to go through sorting out the general licence through proper consultation. Yes or no.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolo Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Anyone fancy this?https://www.steppestravel.com/alaska-cr ... m/overview Or this? Only (From) £7,699. 'Course, that doesn't include the price of planting 300 trees to neutralise yer carbon footprint for the flights etc.https://www.chrispackham.co.uk/news/stu ... with-chrisWhat a ******* hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Some interesting reading/info/debate on Avery's blog. Pigeon pie and the general license. Song bird science etc, NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 8 hours ago, B B said: The registration with NE and the Application for the appropriate licence is the only way you can use the new general licence. Yes or no.? Is this it now is this the permanent situation from now on, yes or no? if NO! are we now going to go through sorting out the general licence through proper consultation. Yes or no.? The General Licence is just that....you do not have to apply individually for the licence to shoot crow...you have to abide by the conditions. Essentially, all shooters must be able to demonstrate that they have adhered to the strict conditions imposed by the General licence. In this respect, it's really no different than it was previously, but as it is now highlighted, thanks to Packham, and the issue publicised, it would be sensible to be able to evidence your adherence in case of challenge. That goes for us all. It's disappointing that the rest of the species list hasn't been sorted as originally indicated by 29th. We'll have to wait and see what emerges. I'm more concerned by the revelations of the cosy relationship and ties between Gove, his pal at NE, Packham, the BBC and other fingers in the pie. The corruption and deceit has had the lid blown off it. The spotlight is now on Gove who will come under intense pressure by furious MPs and Lords to answer for the debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Savhmr said: It's disappointing that the rest of the species list hasn't been sorted as originally indicated by 29th. They did actually say during w/c (week commencing) 29th April, so they are not late unless these have not appeared by business close on Friday. 28 minutes ago, Savhmr said: The spotlight is now on Gove who will come under intense pressure by furious MPs and Lords to answer for the debacle. I hope so. Edited April 30, 2019 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 Packham on GMB now talking to Piers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, MrPhantom said: Packham on GMB now talking to Piers. Will piers be his usual self though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Will piers be his usual self though? I hope so, only person that makes the show watchable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSxS Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 isn't Mr Morgan anti gun ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 yes he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Diabolo said: Anyone fancy this?https://www.steppestravel.com/alaska-cr ... m/overview Or this? Only (From) £7,699. 'Course, that doesn't include the price of planting 300 trees to neutralise yer carbon footprint for the flights etc.https://www.chrispackham.co.uk/news/stu ... with-chrisWhat a ******* hypocrite. I see he endorses a new range of shooting clothes, some with handy tracking footprints printed on the lining, might be worth asking him how they perform in the field Edited April 30, 2019 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Savhmr said: The General Licence is just that....you do not have to apply individually for the licence to shoot crow...you have to abide by the conditions. Essentially, all shooters must be able to demonstrate that they have adhered to the strict conditions imposed by the General licence. In this respect, it's really no different than it was previously, but as it is now highlighted, thanks to Packham, and the issue publicised, it would be sensible to be able to evidence your adherence in case of challenge. That goes for us all. It's disappointing that the rest of the species list hasn't been sorted as originally indicated by 29th. We'll have to wait and see what emerges. I'm more concerned by the revelations of the cosy relationship and ties between Gove, his pal at NE, Packham, the BBC and other fingers in the pie. The corruption and deceit has had the lid blown off it. The spotlight is now on Gove who will come under intense pressure by furious MPs and Lords to answer for the debacle. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheth Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 hi savhmr,so all that's happening is NE are rewording the old licence and life carrys on as before as long as you adhere to the new licence so no need to fill out the licence application form they have put up on their site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, rheth said: hi savhmr,so all that's happening is NE are rewording the old licence and life carrys on as before as long as you adhere to the new licence so no need to fill out the licence application form they have put up on their site. If you can wait for the specific licence to appear then yes. So far all we have is a very poorly thought out carrion crow licence to protect livestock and game rearing. Nothing else can be shot, not even carrion for crop protection... unless you 'have' to do it which means you have to apply for an individual licence. Which from what had been put on here is either really simple or a pain in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 So, the 29th has come and gone with no additional information from Natural England or indeed Mt Gove. Why am I not surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 no news is good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, mossy835 said: no news is good news. dont you belive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 The only thing certain about what's happening at NE is uncertainty. As above, the only General Licence in place is for carrion crow control for the protection of livestock ONLY...no shooting crow on crops. This was passed to protect farmers lambs during the end of the lambing season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, dodgy dave said: dont you belive it I'm beginning to think that based on the opinion expressed by the NGO on the recently revised and released GL 06 regarding the additions made to the original, that the bureaucrats at NE are behaving in the manner which they do best. All they had to do to satisfy the objections made by WJ (and the court) was to correct the omission of the use criteria. But no, bureaucrats can't do that, they simply can't avoid fiddling with something that ain't broke - just missing. The 06 does not affect me and by sheer luck we got away with it on our spring drillings so will probably be OK until such time as something gets swathed before we have to look at the GL 04. I'm guessing, but can well imagine that the longer the delay in issuing this one will reflect the magnitude of their unnecessary interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 Reports say that NE as been swamped with individual licence applications for the control of various birds…. Be interesting to hear from anyone who as applied, Did you get your licence? Have you used it? And what bird species did you apply for? …. 19-03-prevent-serious-damage.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, wymberley said: I'm beginning to think that based on the opinion expressed by the NGO on the recently revised and released GL 06 regarding the additions made to the original, that the bureaucrats at NE are behaving in the manner which they do best. All they had to do to satisfy the objections made by WJ (and the court) was to correct the omission of the use criteria. But no, bureaucrats can't do that, they simply can't avoid fiddling with something that ain't broke - just missing. The 06 does not affect me and by sheer luck we got away with it on our spring drillings so will probably be OK until such time as something gets swathed before we have to look at the GL 04. I'm guessing, but can well imagine that the longer the delay in issuing this one will reflect the magnitude of their unnecessary interference. well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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