Jacko3275 Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Promised the wife when I got my ticket I would take her clay shooting but she is scared it will hurt her shoulder so how do I reduce the recoil for her with out reducing ( too much) the chance of her hitting something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Get an Instructor to show her, pay the money and let her enjoy herself. Far better than a Novice teaching her and she gets hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 You could get her to try a .410 but the chances of hitting stuff are reduced. My missus has a junior 20b and we put 21g carts through it. She's got a sensitive shoulder but can manage 20 shots before she's had enough. Good technique also helps - proper gun mount etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Moaning even before she tries it! leave her at home! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 12 gauge with 21 grm loads or a nice ou .410 and keep the ranges shortish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Moaning even before she tries it! leave her at home! Lol! Like ye style 7 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: 12 gauge with 21 grm loads or a nice ou .410 and keep the ranges shortish Does using 65mm over 70mm also reduce the recoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 hello, 20 bore O/U with CSP 20 LIGHT 21Gm FIBRE 7.5s unless of course she will use your 12 guage which you can buy the same cartridge in 8s, but start with a lesson or 2 , now why are the 20 bore more expensive than the 12 bore by around £30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Sorry, have to agree with the Instructor route. I have witnessed so many ladies and youngsters hurt by their initial introduction to shooting and it WILL put them off for good, on the other hand................................................🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: Promised the wife when I got my ticket I would take her clay shooting but she is scared it will hurt her shoulder so how do I reduce the recoil for her with out reducing ( too much) the chance of her hitting something hello, what shotgun will your wife be using ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Its generally the weight in the cart that makes a difference .not so much the cart length .though i suppose you can get more lead in a 70mm than a 65 What u dont want to do is choose a light weight gun and put a heavy load through it .it will hurt . (Unless its a gas operated semi auto .) These reduce recoil considerably . So maybe a 20b sa. With 21 grm load would be good or a 12b ou with 21 grm load . But a light weight 20b ou with a 32 grm will knock her teeth out . I once shot a single barrel 12b break barrel with a 50 grm load .thought id been hit by a truck . Edited May 20, 2019 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, what shotgun will your wife be using ? My 12b ata sp sporter so It as a bit of meat to it 31 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Its generally the weight in the cart that makes a difference .not so much the cart length .though i suppose you can get more lead in a 70mm than a 65 What u dont want to do is choose a light weight gun and put a heavy load through it .it will hurt . (Unless its a gas operated semi auto .) These reduce recoil considerably . So maybe a 20b sa. With 21 grm load would be good or a 12b ou with 21 grm load . But a light weight 20b ou with a 32 grm will knock her teeth out . I once shot a single barrel 12b break barrel with a 50 grm load .thought id been hit by a truck . I thought the weight of shot was the same in 28g 65mm or a 75mm but more powder so more velocity so more recoil I’ll buy some 21g for her can you buy cart half a dozen at a time😉 Edited May 20, 2019 by Jacko3275 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverforget Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jacko3275 said: Promised the wife when I got my ticket I would take her clay shooting but she is scared it will hurt her shoulder so how do I reduce the recoil for her with out reducing ( too much) the chance of her hitting something i thouht that, wife went and never held a gun and smashed the heel out off them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jacko3275 said: My 12b ata sp sporter so It as a bit of meat to it I thought the weight of shot was the same in 28g 65mm or a 75mm but more powder so more velocity so more recoil I’ll buy some 21g for her can you buy cart half a dozen at a time😉 hello, that would be to heavy i would think, i can only suggest a few lessons and see if they have a 20 bore O/U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Got to go the instructor route for several reasons. 1. It’s not worth the grief she will give, hit or miss 2. Missing will be your fault not hers 3. She won’t argue with an instructor 4. He will have a suitable gun i was shooting a simulated game day on Saturday and with us was a ten year old who shot brilliantly using a 28 bore with 14 gam loads and no problem. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Spent longer get wife’s and girlfriends over well meaning boyfriend husbands fathers etc trying to teach them than any other set of problems. Get an instructor to do the intro and basics then take their advice and develop onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Jacko3275 said: Promised the wife when I got my ticket I would take her clay shooting but she is scared it will hurt her shoulder so how do I reduce the recoil for her with out reducing ( too much) the chance of her hitting something a slow going away target or incoming target a 21g loads or training loads are available also sub sonics local gun shop or clay ground should be able to help , gun may be too heavy to handle depending on her stature, then smaller calibers again clay ground can help or any one with a lighter / smaller caliber will be more than happy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Jacko3275 said: Promised the wife when I got my ticket I would take her clay shooting but she is scared it will hurt her shoulder so how do I reduce the recoil for her with out reducing ( too much) the chance of her hitting something I'd say take her and possibly (depends on how much you've done) yourself for a lesson at a decent ground that has a selection of guns an a knowledgeable instructor. That way if she's not keen you'll both know it wasn't your fault, but 100% you'll still get the blame... 😂😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 17 hours ago, Jacko3275 said: My 12b ata sp sporter so It as a bit of meat to it My daughter has been shooting my 12 g Rem 1100 for about 3 years, she is quite slight of build, we use my standard 28g carts. She doesnt really have a problem with recoil, its the weight of the gun and LOP she doesnt like, but its not really worth buying her own gun, as she just doesnt shoot enough. Depending on your wifes err..size, the ATA might be a bit too heavy (they are heavier than an 1100) and the LOP could be too long. Get at least one lesson for her, with a gun that fits, or she will hate it and not want to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 19 hours ago, hedge said: You could get her to try a .410 but the chances of hitting stuff are reduced. My missus has a junior 20b and we put 21g carts through it. She's got a sensitive shoulder but can manage 20 shots before she's had enough. Good technique also helps - proper gun mount etc. I would never tend to start a new shooter or a youngster for that matter on a 410 but with multi chokes now available and small shot, against the tight choked old 410s of the past with 5shot then I think you could let her have a few easy peasy straight away targets, using an O/U 410 with open chokes fitted. Whatever the MOST important thing is that the shotgun must fit her, right length stock a priority. Howmany times have we senn women and youngsters striving to hold a ill fitting shotgun and rifle for that matter. The next most important thing is to make the targets easy peasy so she gets to break them straight off. IF he takes to it beware she will no doubt shoot the backside off you as all the women I have shown how to shoot, flyfish, rifle shoot have become extremely good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzyvilla Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Another vote for using a good instructor. I am going through a similar situation with my wife who is of slight build and isn't the rough and tumble type. She has done archery for years but fancied a go on the clays, so I got her on a ladies day for a present and she got the bug so we progressed to one to one tuition with an instructor. She has been taught to mount and hold properly which makes a big difference. She started with using the instructors 12b with 21g carts, but she struggled with holding the gun up for an extended period of time, so I got a lighter 20b that was much more comfortable for her to hold up. Still using 21g carts, and the difference in recoil is virtually non existent despite the gun being a good 1lb lighter. She also uses a shoulder pad (purchased from ebay for £7) and is now progressing well. Also gives me an excuse to go off and have a practice myself while she is having her lessons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 21 hours ago, Jacko3275 said: My 12b ata sp sporter so It as a bit of meat to it I thought the weight of shot was the same in 28g 65mm or a 75mm but more powder so more velocity so more recoil I’ll buy some 21g for her can you buy cart half a dozen at a time😉 Is it the ally action , the wife has that gun , and we all shoot Hull Comp x 28 grams , no recoil . The also do a 24 and 21 gram , i belive .i think the problem you may have is The " LOP" of the stock , unless it feels right for her , i cut my wifes down to 13 and half to fit her . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Is it the ally action , the wife has that gun , and we all shoot Hull Comp x 28 grams , no recoil . The also do a 24 and 21 gram , i belive .i think the problem you may have is The " LOP" of the stock , unless it feels right for her , i cut my wifes down to 13 and half to fit her . Mines the heavier action and I’ve only just bought the gun for my self I ain’t chopping it down to suit the wife ... looks like it’s gonna be tutor or low weight carts or just pressing button when I call pull Edited May 21, 2019 by Jacko3275 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 One other thought on this that my wife had issues with..... Bra straps. Make sure she wears a bra with the buckles at the back and not the front, it does make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Country_est said: One other thought on this that my wife had issues with..... Bra straps. Make sure she wears a bra with the buckles at the back and not the front, it does make a difference. I prefer them to wear no bra when Im instructing. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) Shooting has always been a big part of my wife’s and I relationship. We were dirt poor and I always wanted a gun safe but couldn’t afford one. We barely had money to buy 22 ammo on the weekends. When she graduated and got her first job she bought me one. It was a cheap one but I still have it because she bought it for me. Congratulations on finding a life partner that is willing to share a hobby with you. Edited May 22, 2019 by NoBodyImportant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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