Danger-Mouse Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Couldn't be any worse than Jezzer! From radical communist to radical feminist. What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr_Nobody said: From radical communist to radical feminist. What could possibly go wrong? Marvellous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Penelope said: I have always thought that Millipede the Elder was only biding his time at Thunderbirds. The same man who lost a leadership election to Ed Milliband? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, spandit said: The same man who lost a leadership election to Ed Milliband? What an absolute cluster**** that was. Milliband the reasonably bright beaten by his thick brother, Chuka Umana stood down because he wanted to spend time with his family. Jezzer sprung in as the JOKE candidate and then wins. You just couldn't make it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, spandit said: The same man who lost a leadership election to Ed Milliband? Believe me; it's better to have a loser leading the Labour party. 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Chuka Umana stood down because he wanted to spend time with his family. That was the story, but the rumour was someone somewhere had something on him, probably extramarital, possible more 'complex'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: That was the story, but the rumour was someone somewhere had something on him, probably extramarital, possible more 'complex'. Oh I am sure there is far more to that story, it is an often used phrase to hide many problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 This won't please the Labour leadership... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: This won't please the Labour leadership... That must be the quickest poll ever🥴 PS. No one asked me, so I believe those %'s are a bit premature…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, KB1 said: That must be the quickest poll ever🥴 PS. No one asked me, so I believe those %'s are a bit premature…….. Online poll of 5,641 respondents, so should be reasonably accurate. Also: 'The Momentum founder, Jon Lansman, was on the receiving end of an extraordinary broadside from the Labour grandee Alan Johnson as they appeared together during ITV’s election coverage. Accusing Momentum of peddling “student politics”, Johnson said: “I want them out of the party. I want Momentum gone. Go back to your student politics and your little left wing.” Corbyn “couldn’t lead the working class out of a paper bag”, the former home secretary added.' (taken from the guardian) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: Online poll of 5,641 respondents, so should be reasonably accurate. Also: 'The Momentum founder, Jon Lansman, was on the receiving end of an extraordinary broadside from the Labour grandee Alan Johnson as they appeared together during ITV’s election coverage. Accusing Momentum of peddling “student politics”, Johnson said: “I want them out of the party. I want Momentum gone. Go back to your student politics and your little left wing.” Corbyn “couldn’t lead the working class out of a paper bag”, the former home secretary added.' (taken from the guardian) I saw that bit when I'd turned over, didn't know who they were but it made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scully Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rewulf said: That is just so wrong! 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What an absolute cluster**** that was. Milliband the reasonably bright beaten by his thick brother, Chuka Umana stood down because he wanted to spend time with his family. Jezzer sprung in as the JOKE candidate and then wins. You just couldn't make it up! I think at the time you could join Labour for £3 and vote for the leader. Possibly people joined and voted for the least electable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, KB1 said: The biggest lesson LABOUR can learn from this is…….. "IGNORE DEMOCRACY AT YOU'RE PERIL"👍 Egg-zactly in my opinion. Revenge is such a powerful emotion that doing the dirty on the referendum result after assurances they'd honour it was their greatest mistake that voters would not forgive them for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I think what lost votes for labour was their policy's and their leadership team, if they sort those 2 things out they could be in with a chance in a couple of decades. Brexit wasn't high in my voting decision keeping labour out was, I have no interest in working in the state tractor factory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Gordon R said: I wonder just who Labour will elect. If it is from the Momentum backed Corbynistas, they face a very long time in the wilderness. Starmer has a boring personality. Rayner has a rather unfortunate personality. Becky Long Bailey is bright enough, but will suffer by association with Jezzer. Yvette Cooper has no personality. I said months ago that David Milliband will be biding his time and will just need to wait for a few disastrous local elections for Labour to come to their senses.. There is another Corbyn love child who is quite high profile, hates the conservative party more than any other politician and is generally a despicable rancid ****, therefore an ideal candidate ! Richard burgen , he is a Leeds mp, my money is on him and I hope he gets the job. Other than Dianne Abbott he would be my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Jess Phillips or Lisa Nandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, bluesj said: I think what lost votes for labour was their policy's and their leadership team, if they sort those 2 things out they could be in with a chance in a couple of decades. Brexit wasn't high in my voting decision keeping labour out was, I have no interest in working in the state tractor factory! Yes but Labour's had equally bad leaders in the past and it didn't dissuade their loyal lemmings🥴 This time was clearly about Labour ignoring their referendum vote…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Question time, with no Conservative MP? They must all be out getting hammered, no one parties like the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Did I read somewhere that Labour wished to abolish the Personal Tax Allowance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Did I read somewhere that Labour wished to abolish the Personal Tax Allowance? Potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Thanks Mice its just that using the HMRC tax calculator I get the following as a hypothetical scenario Nurse currently on £35000 would after tax/ni, currently receive £27337 per annum Labour offer a 5% wage increase that takes that up to £36750, after tax etc of £28527 Heres the rub, abolish Personal Allowance and that same Nurse who has received their 5% Increase, would now be £1300 a year worse off as their take home pay would now be £26027 It is of course irrelevant now with the Tory victory and it being just a Labour “Potential” removal, but say it did happen? Why aren’t scenarios such as this highlighted more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Why aren’t scenarios such as this highlighted more? Because your wrong, no one ever loses under Labour 🤪🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Apparently the loony left are protesting in Westminster, London and Glasgow against Boris and the Tory’s election victory, repeatedly shouting “oh! Jeremy Corbin” The police are in attendance, the pictures show placards headed “socialist worker”....”they don’t like it up em Mr Mainwaring” lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: Jess Phillips or Lisa Nandy. Jess Phillips has been touted as an ‘outsider’, but I’d have money on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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