Jaymo Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, mick miller said: It's unlikely too spread to badly here. We don't **** in the streets, spit everywhere and trade live koala's and wolf cubs at food markets like the mainland Chinese do. They're pretty much medieval. Shows a total lack of awareness of viral transmission and of mutations. Bet you also thought AIDS started by some random bloke fornicating with a Monkey, or however the stupid rumour went back in the 80’s !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ditchman said: have you ever been to norfolk ? I was born there bor... 7 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Shows a total lack of awareness of viral transmission and of mutations. Bet you also thought AIDS started by some random bloke fornicating with a Monkey, or however the stupid rumour went back in the 80’s !!!!!!! Oh dear, did you get triggered Jaymo? It's likely the virus was transmitted via live flying mammals. If you think they don't **** in the street and spit all over the place, I suggest you visit and look for yourself. They'll eat and trade literally anything, in markets we haven't seen in this country since the days of the plague. But, I'll make sure to wipe the seat so I don't get AIDS, don't worry. When you go, make sure you try something fried, their street markets use the best oils. As I said, medieval. Edited January 23, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Shows a total lack of awareness of viral transmission and of mutations. Bet you also thought AIDS started by some random bloke fornicating with a Monkey, or however the stupid rumour went back in the 80’s !!!!!!! i was there............i was running a roads programm in Yei in southern sudan at the time .........the WHO were crawling all over the place and in and out of Ziar......where it was suspected that a pygmy tribe had been involved in beastality......then they targetted the skol brewary at kinshasser...and were taking swabs of bottle caps of the skol bottles we were selling in the PDU club.....then it got nasty and the rumour was that the USA had released this virus off to kill the africains off bizzarre times they were............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Snoozer said: Looks like it's made Landfall in Scotland. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51223111 The rapid spread across the world at least partially backs up my opinion that air travel is too affordable, previously mentioned in respect of airline companies going out of business. Edited January 23, 2020 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Never underestimate the danger from a flu epidemic. The potential threat is very real, flu is not a runny nose and a muzzy head for a few days. Spanish flu in 1919 killed otherwise fit and healthy young people in under 48 hours from first symptoms and it killed them in tens of thousands. Today we still have moved virtually no further forward in treating flu than we were in 1919. Flu vaccines are only retrospective, no protection against a new strain.. The NHS can only do so much, once the number of cases goes over a few hundred hospitals will shut their doors. Edited January 23, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dave-G said: The rapid spread across the world at least partially backs up my opinion that air travel is too cheap, previously mentioned in respect of airline companies going out of business. Scientists have never really worked out how Spanish Flu managed to spread round the world as quickly as it did in 1918-9.There were some very strange outbreaks in quite remote places But yes I could easily be sitting on a train in London tomorrow next to somebody who has just flown in from China. Not so likely in Cornwall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Spanish flu in 1919 killed otherwise fit and healthy young people in under 48 hours from first symptoms and it killed them in tens of thousands. The flu outbreak killed more than were killed in the first world war. Sobering thought. However, currently 17 have died - out of about 1.4 billion people in China. I appreciate it will grow, but it is (at present anyway) early days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozer Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) It's not IF it's WHEN will one of these little critters take a huge chunk of life on our Planet. Edited January 23, 2020 by Snoozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Snoozer said: It's not IF it's WHEN will one of these little critters take a huge chunk of life on our Planet. Yes you are right, but the world population is more than five times what it was in 1919 and many of the people live in huge conurbations that are just ripe for an epidemic to rip through them like a forest fire. That wasn't so much the case in 1919, so when it comes it could be so much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 have you ever been to norfolk ? Yeh ...... Any chance of helping me to find a way out please , it seems all the roads lead to nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, AVB said: I bet it is nowhere near as bad as man flu. that's worse than the ordinary flu that women and kids get ! Edited January 23, 2020 by derbyduck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I blame Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ditchman said: i was there............i was running a roads programm in Yei in southern sudan at the time .........the WHO were crawling all over the place and in and out of Ziar......where it was suspected that a pygmy tribe had been involved in beastality......then they targetted the skol brewary at kinshasser...and were taking swabs of bottle caps of the skol bottles we were selling in the PDU club.....then it got nasty and the rumour was that the USA had released this virus off to kill the africains off bizzarre times they were............ I hope you Roger Daltrey's autograph 😄 In all honesty though, I do think 'nature' will redress the balance. Everything we try and do to better ourselves ends up having long term adverse effects on the planet and environment so it's fairly obvious that something will happen. Just a question of when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave-G said: The rapid spread across the world at least partially backs up my opinion that air travel is too affordable, previously mentioned in respect of airline companies going out of business. It gets better and better !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: The flu outbreak killed more than were killed in the first world war. Sobering thought. However, currently 17 have died - out of about 1.4 billion people in China. I appreciate it will grow, but it is (at present anyway) early days. But that is assuming there are only 17 deaths! Would you really react like that for only 17 deaths, we get more than that from normal pneumonia in this country 1 hour ago, Doc Holliday said: I hope you Roger Daltrey's autograph 😄 In all honesty though, I do think 'nature' will redress the balance. Everything we try and do to better ourselves ends up having long term adverse effects on the planet and environment so it's fairly obvious that something will happen. Just a question of when. Probably nature’s answer to global warming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB1 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 8 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i just do not understand why the media have not picked this up, but then maybe the chinese will stop this love of eating dogs etc, it started with a market worker catching this viris 4 hours ago, mick miller said: It's unlikely too spread to badly here. We don't **** in the streets, spit everywhere and trade live koala's and wolf cubs at food markets like the mainland Chinese do. They're pretty much medieval. How broad is your brush of ignorance?🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, KB1 said: How broad is your brush of ignorance?🙄 hello, i have been to China a few times and Hong Kong city and have never seen this kind of behavior, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 hours ago, ditchman said: have you ever been to norfolk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i have been to China a few times and Hong Kong city and have never seen this kind of behavior, It happens, even the residents of Hong Kong will warn you about the mainlanders behavioural quirks, if you bother to ask them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 11 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: 7 have died I think 25 now, that's if you trust the figures coming out of the regime. I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, mick miller said: It happens, even the residents of Hong Kong will warn you about the mainlanders behavioural quirks, if you bother to ask When it comes to the airborne transmission of a virus, Chinese social mores are pretty much irrelevant though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence about the other means of transmission when many of the less, shall we say sophisticated, members of the community fail to get even the basics right. No wonder they've now put a second city in lock down. I would be extremely cautious of any news regarding the spread or numbers dead or affected coming out of China. Actually, its now 8 cities, of course, you always do that when only 830 people are sick and build a completely new hospital to be completed by 3rd of Feb (to later be demolished) and cut off the Internet to wuhan, mobilise 450,000 people to build 'a line of defence'. Edited January 24, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, mick miller said: No wonder they've now put a second city in lock down. You can hardly criticize the Chinese for not taking the threat seriously. The city of Wunan alone has a population of 11 million - that's 3 million more than London. And it's basically been put under curfew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 8 cities, do keep up at the back. Thankfully, only 830 people affected (double it, add at least a nought). Still, we'll never know I guess, now the internet is going off, you know, to stop the spread of the virus. Very sensible precaution. If I were home sec I'd be banning anyone coming from, or going to China for the foreseeable, but that won't happen as we're hungry for their money. Edited January 24, 2020 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 hours ago, mick miller said: It's unlikely too spread to badly here. We don't **** in the streets, spit everywhere and trade live koala's and wolf cubs at food markets like the mainland Chinese do. They're pretty much medieval. Apart from the animal bit sounds like most city centres in the UK. Medieval, whisky tango foxtrot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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