243deer Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51205548 Life sentence that means life needed, I know it is the maximum but the guy has had his chance before, clearly a very dangerous individual who, if let out, will probably kill someone next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) How the **** did he get away with that as a repeat offender? "During his trial, Mrs Justice Carr ruled Rodwan's violent past was inadmissible despite jurors asking about previous convictions". Edited January 24, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 You read this stuff and its incredulous. Lets hope the sentencing reflects the crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, oowee said: You read this stuff and its incredulous. Lets hope the sentencing reflects the crime. It can't as he has been tried for the minor crime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, oowee said: You read this stuff and its incredulous. Lets hope the sentencing reflects the crime. Nothing unusual for that area these days, stabbings everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) I'd really like it explained to me, when attacking someone with a machete, goes from assault with intent, to attempted murder! 60 times the Police officer was hit with the machete, quite a few of those were on the head. If that's not attempted murder, then nothing is! Our 'justice' system is a absolute disgrace. Same goes for stabbing someone. In my book it's attempted murder. Edited January 24, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 hello, out of date sentencing, out of date Judge, previous crimes were inadmissable, 1 rape 2 machete attacks, is this what we can expect in UK in 2020, Snowflake Judges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I wonder if the iminent sentence could be challenged as inappropriate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 16 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 What was he protecting in the van and we have not been told. He was not a delivering shopping (food) but something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: I'd really like it explained to me, when attacking someone with a machete, goes from assault with intent, to attempted murder! 60 times the Police officer was hit with the machete, quite a few of those were on the head. If that's not attempted murder, then nothing is! Our 'justice' system is a absolute disgrace. Same goes for stabbing someone. In my book it's attempted murder. They use a lesser charge because there is a greater chance of conviction. I was stabbed in the face with a 12 inch carving knife, and he had tried to stab me in the chest, it was dealt with as ABH as there was a greater chance of conviction, all he got was 8 months inside. It's all down to the CPS who only take the case forward if they have an extremly good chance of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 If you watch the bodycam footage, it's scary. The officer is so polite to him, the guy just doesn't cooperate and then it all kicks off. If that was in the US, the guy would have been shot. The PC isn't back at work yet but I hope he recovers enough to continue to do such a good job. Sadly, I doubt that 16 years actually means 16 years inside. Also need to note that the CPS is very separate from the police and not blame the cops for prosecution politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Welsh1 - I feel for you The judge could have handed down 5 years yet showed you, as the victim, very little respect in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 According to today's Daily Telegraph, the jury "... found Rodwan guilty of wounding with intent, but cleared him of the more serious charge of attempted murder and also of possession of an offensive weapon." So, he was in possession of a weapon and used it to commit an offence, but he was not in possession of an offensive weapon. Can somebody please explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshirelad Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 If a 2 foot long machette isn't an offensive weapon, then I don't know what is. And where did they find the jury? They must have all been friends with the, erm, "gardener!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, welsh1 said: They use a lesser charge because there is a greater chance of conviction. I was stabbed in the face with a 12 inch carving knife, and he had tried to stab me in the chest, it was dealt with as ABH as there was a greater chance of conviction, all he got was 8 months inside. It's all down to the CPS who only take the case forward if they have an extremly good chance of winning. All of which doesn't change the fact that this and what happened to you was attempted murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Murder is common place in our society. How many life sentences can we dish out that actually last the offenders lifetime. The answer is none, because we would never have enough prison places. There is only one answer and that is to cull them all from society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 It would be no loss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, TRINITY said: Murder is common place in our society. How many life sentences can we dish out that actually last the offenders lifetime. The answer is none, because we would never have enough prison places. There is only one answer and that is to cull them all from society. All murder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: All of which doesn't change the fact that this and what happened to you was attempted murder. I totally agree with you ,and i was shocked when the police told me what the charge was going to be, but the CPS make the decision and they apparantly will always go with the charge they think they will win, although with the camera footage of this officer i am dumbfounded as to why they did not run with attempted murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Also wounding with intent , the offence which the scum bag admits also has a life penalty. So let's see if the judge has the bottle to impose one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochastorm Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 It’s not about judges having bottle to sentence, they have sentencing guidelines. When the judge sentences all factors can be considered and the tariff will reflect that. I would anticipate a significantly lengthy prison term in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 There should be an investigation into the fact that someone at the CPS thought there was insufficient evidence for a more serious charge. Incompetence springs to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Taser saved the officers life. Had he been armed, the attacker would have been shot. All over a van with no insurance. The officer done very well to stand his ground and fight back. f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 They should have shot the bloke in the face second he pulled a weapon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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