Velocette Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 The current ruling for numbers of relatives etc attending a funeral has been increased to 10. At a cemetery on the outskirts of Bradford yesterday morning the single woman attendant, a friends wife, placed at the entry to explain this ruling to attendees was confronted by 30+ "travellers" who forced their way in with threats that she wouldn't have a car to go home in if they were not allowed past. Neither managers or the Police were willing to attend and they were allowed to do as they wished. Words fail me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) There's only one traveller the English ever liked....the Morris Traveller. And to be honest having owned two that was two too many. Edited April 22, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Velocette said: The current ruling for numbers of relatives etc attending a funeral has been increased to 10. At a cemetery on the outskirts of Bradford yesterday morning the single woman attendant, a friends wife, placed at the entry to explain this ruling to attendees was confronted by 30+ "travellers" who forced their way in with threats that she wouldn't have a car to go home in if they were not allowed past. Neither managers or the Police were willing to attend and they were allowed to do as they wished. Words fail me ! It's all for the sake of diversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, enfieldspares said: And to be honest having owned two that was two too many. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Hi RETSDON. The first Traveller was an scapper anyway that I learned to drive with across fields. The second one was for a year at least an MoT'd car that i actually used. It's the only car I ever owned that failed it's MoT because of dry rot! Edited April 22, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 hello, my friend had a mini traveller, rust and dry rot were prone on these, on minis is was the sub frames, i learnt to drive on a farm as well, use to race around a big orchard, we had an old nsu quickly to get the cows in for milking but most came in if you shouted come on !!! happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 11 hours ago, henry d said: I have lived for 30 years within 2 miles of a traveller site and never had a bit of bother. They could be in your living room burgling you and you’d be sat there with your hands over your eyes, saying it wasn’t happening 👀🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Nope, I quite regularly forget to lock my car and house doors. Last thing we had stolen from our garden was my daughter's bike away back in the mid 90's. I wonder how many people can say that they have been subject to criminal acts more from travellers than local Crims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, henry d said: Nope, I quite regularly forget to lock my car and house doors. Last thing we had stolen from our garden was my daughter's bike away back in the mid 90's. I wonder how many people can say that they have been subject to criminal acts more from travellers than local Crims? In the case of hare coursing,machinery and diesel thefts round here, definitely. Police checks or alerts always flag up vehicles entering the county from all over the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, henry d said: I wonder how many people can say that they have been subject to criminal acts more from travellers than local Crims? Not an answer, but about 30 years ago my garage and a lot of other local outbuildings were raided overnight. Targeted mainly equestrian items but also garden machinery etc.and included a large local stables, saddles, leather goods, a pony trap and many other items. Quite a big thing as over 6 properties were targeted over two or three nights. Police visited, but basically nothing other than a reference number and not much interest. It even took then several days to visit at all - when a PC came and had 'a chat' basically, which told me how much of a burden these rural crimes were and I should have had more security really. I kicked up a bit of a fuss, and they did send a Scene of Crime officer - who attended and said they couldn't take fingerprints, the type of lock I had (standard garage door) was too weak - and was more interested in whether I was fully insured. My insurance sent an adjuster - who told me exactly who was responsible ('strongly corrected with a traveller group, even named names), told me the police knew perfectly well who it was, who would fence the goods (that was done through the mobile community), and who did the organisation ......... but wouldn't do anything because they had no evidence as to who had actually 'done' the theft and wouldn't get any convictions as they all gave each other alibis etc. Well - that may be true - but if they don't bother to investigate, they won't get convictions. I was very disillusioned by the whole affair. There was a good side in that unknown to me - my insurance was based on a 'new for old' policy that got me a brand new mower, but on the other hand I did loose some old and sentimental value carriage lamps that had been in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 hello, look what happened to Frank Bruno ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Circa 1989 whilst I was paying for my fuel I saw a person (who it later transpired had an Irish accent and drive a Ford D Series lorry) open the back door of my car and examine my deerhound cross lurched. When I confronted him he explained that he was only looking. A few days later he passed me whilst I was exercising my dog and offered me £200 for him. I refused put the dog on the lead and headed in the direction of home. The lorry kept passing me several times and I realised that he was looking to see where I lived. I diverted from the direction of home and gave the dog the walk of his life until the interested party lost interest. I don't think that the dog ever forgave me for the long walk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 21 hours ago, henry d said: I have lived for 30 years within 2 miles of a traveller site and never had a bit of bother. Having had some dealings in a former life, there is no bother until they are required to do something they don't want to. Then the fun starts. Some were very unpleasant individuals. They are beyond the law and know it, They have very little fear for authority. I only ever saw them make a very rapid exit once when a whole local community mobilised within minutes when invaded by an encampment. After a short confrontation they had all gone in half an hour watched by the police once the realisation dawned that it was not safe to stay. The reason nothing is done, is cost involved with dealing with them to welfare and legal standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, old man said: The reason nothing is done, is cost involved with dealing with them to welfare and legal standards. In which case - are the standards proportional and right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Similar to Velocette, take 1 in and 15 appear as relatives with no paperwork to disprove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Chicken muck is the only thing I’ve seen work to move them on. Put it good and thick on every field around them, and especially on the track they use to get in and out of camp. It’s the only thing that stinks worse than they do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, henry d said: I wonder how many people can say that they have been subject to criminal acts more from travellers than local Crims? On a nationwide basis I would think very few, but in my home town....dozens. I know plenty, including family, friends, locals and myself. Everything ranging from spitting in your face ( is that assault?) everything in between, to rape and even a murder. Like I said, I could write a book....maybe I should. 🙂 It would be interesting to find out statistically what proportion of crime all ( for the sake of fairness ) ethnic minorities are responsible for as part of UK crime as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Scully said: On a nationwide basis I would think very few, but in my home town....dozens. I know plenty, including family, friends, locals and myself. Everything ranging from spitting in your face ( is that assault?) everything in between, to rape and even a murder. Like I said, I could write a book....maybe I should. 🙂 It would be interesting to find out statistically what proportion of crime all ( for the sake of fairness ) ethnic minorities are responsible for as part of UK crime as a whole. hello, i know a true story regarding a family of travellers, it realy goes to show how some are so so ******* also PC Harper ?? Edited April 23, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, Scully said: On a nationwide basis I would think very few, but in my home town....dozens. I know plenty, including family, friends, locals and myself. Everything ranging from spitting in your face ( is that assault?) everything in between, to rape and even a murder. Like I said, I could write a book....maybe I should. 🙂 It would be interesting to find out statistically what proportion of crime all ( for the sake of fairness ) ethnic minorities are responsible for as part of UK crime as a whole. I agree, I too would be interested, but PC dictates it isn’t gonna happen! The police would sooner show they ain’t institutionally racist, than target minority criminal elements and solve crimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Medic1281 said: Chicken muck is the only thing I’ve seen work to move them on. Put it good and thick on every field around them, and especially on the track they use to get in and out of camp. It’s the only thing that stinks worse than they do! Don’t know about that, the worst smell we get is from a local pig farmer, his fields are about a mile or two as the crow fly’s and when he mucks the fields and we get a south westerly wind the smell is sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, old'un said: Don’t know about that, the worst smell we get is from a local pig farmer, his fields are about a mile or two as the crow fly’s and when he mucks the fields and we get a south westerly wind the smell is sickening. You've obviously never heard of the infamous 'Penrith Pong!' 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scully said: . 🙂 It would be interesting to find out statistically what proportion of crime all ( for the sake of fairness ) ethnic minorities are responsible for as part of UK crime as a whole. For the sake of fairness why not add in income and other poverty factors as well as white British? Edited April 23, 2020 by henry d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, henry d said: For the sake of fairness why not add in income and other poverty factors as well as white British? What’s that got to do with crime? Just because your not materially wealthy doesn’t mean you have to be a criminal!....being a criminal is a lifestyle choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, henry d said: For the sake of fairness why not add in income and other poverty factors as well as white British? There are no doubt many poverty stricken ‘white British’ , but I’m not too sure about them being an ethnic minority Henry....maybe one day. 🙂 I have yet to meet a poor traveller, and am not really sure how we would gauge their income anyhow, as it’s often an unknown factor, but yeah, it would be interesting to break it all down, consider ALL factors, and see just what the percentage of crime is for say, per hundred / thousand head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: being a criminal is a lifestyle choice! Not in henrys world, criminality is a 'cross' poor people have to bear 😀 An accident of birth, there is no other path for them to follow , so not their fault at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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