triumphant59 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 A few weeks ago I think most certificate holders in Lincolnshire received a letter from the Firearms dept stressing how important it is to keep your guns secure and ensure it is not possible for a thief to get a crowbar behind your cabinet to prise it off the wall. A friend of mine had a phone call from Lincs Police yesterday asking him if he had received said letter and what measures he had taken as a result to make his cabinets more secure! He explained how secure his weapons where and that he had cctv cameras fitted at his property. The officer was suitably impressed but then went on to state that he had too many guns and he needs to sell some! Suggesting the maximum allowable is 12. To my knowledge there is no limit to the number of shotguns that can be held. Is this another case of Lincolnshire Police making up their own laws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Sounds like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 No law on how many you can own and dont think they can stipulate how many you are allowed to hold on licence. Think this is just someone in the depth making yet another rule up... To suit their agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 No such regulation I know of. Number of guns my cabinets will hold has been asked but never a query on the number of guns. I would politely ask under what legislation or regulation this is being suggested. I believe you can be expected to have greater security if you have a lot of guns but haven’t seen it written and have not bothered looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 avon and somerset, will let you hold 5 guns, if you have an alarm you can have more,i hold 5 guns, and i dont want to rock the boat.i was told that by my old feo, years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 West mercia say 10 without additional security BUT they count moderators as guns so 5 rifles & 5 mods and you're at 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gu5 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, mossy835 said: avon and somerset, will let you hold 5 guns, if you have an alarm you can have more,i hold 5 guns, and i dont want to rock the boat.i was told that by my old feo, years ago. If you have more than 1 certificate holder in your house are you allowed more or is it 5 per household? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 per house hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 There's different levels of security recommended when you have more guns. How many has your mate got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, GingerCat said: There's different levels of security recommended when you have more guns. How many has your mate got? He’s got 14, they state he should not have more than 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Is that 14 in 2 x 5 gun cabinets? I know a mate who had that and they went ape ****. Other than that, he's gone above and beyond with additional security so ask for it in writing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulinlincs Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 hours ago, triumphant59 said: A few weeks ago I think most certificate holders in Lincolnshire received a letter from the Firearms dept stressing how important it is to keep your guns secure and ensure it is not possible for a thief to get a crowbar behind your cabinet to prise it off the wall. A friend of mine had a phone call from Lincs Police yesterday asking him if he had received said letter and what measures he had taken as a result to make his cabinets more secure! He explained how secure his weapons where and that he had cctv cameras fitted at his property. The officer was suitably impressed but then went on to state that he had too many guns and he needs to sell some! Suggesting the maximum allowable is 12. To my knowledge there is no limit to the number of shotguns that can be held. Is this another case of Lincolnshire Police making up their own laws? I had the same letter. Pretty sure as mentioned there is no limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 South Yorks are sending out letters to cert holders telling them to either beef up their security or sell guns if they "have too many". Apparently it's something to do with a change in the HO guidance on storage and security, but I've not seen the specifics. They're putting shooters into categories based on security type, number of guns, postcode etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, triumphant59 said: He’s got 14, they state he should not have more than 12 I suspect its 12 for the type of safe and alarm he has. Ho rules have changed. I think, can't remember exactly, that they want an alarm linked to the force and a few other bits over a said number. Its in the guidance if he wants to read up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Making it up as they go along! AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just a thought. If said robber is going to force the safe from the wall. What it he going to end up with? Perhaps a gert heavy cabinet with several guns in it and a most awkward thing to get out of the house. Why not just bring his battery angle grinder and just nick the guns? I wonder how many whole cabinets complete with guns are stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 16 hours ago, mossy835 said: avon and somerset, will let you hold 5 guns, if you have an alarm you can have more,i hold 5 guns, and i dont want to rock the boat.i was told that by my old feo, years ago. Mate was told he had to have an alarm when he went over 12 he is in A and S. I had an extra cabinet and was asked to bolt the two together for extra security. I thought it a good idea. 5 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Just a thought. If said robber is going to force the safe from the wall. What it he going to end up with? Perhaps a gert heavy cabinet with several guns in it and a most awkward thing to get out of the house. Why not just bring his battery angle grinder and just nick the guns? I wonder how many whole cabinets complete with guns are stolen. Battery angle grinder is the way to go I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Wasn't it not law but guidance that said plus nine guns requires extra security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 i have a mate that has 28 guns, the house has an alarm on it, the police dont like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Demonic69 said: South Yorks are sending out letters to cert holders telling them to either beef up their security or sell guns if they "have too many". Apparently it's something to do with a change in the HO guidance on storage and security, but I've not seen the specifics. They're putting shooters into categories based on security type, number of guns, postcode etc. Easy to say sell guns however at the moment how ?? With travel restrictions and non essential journey restrictions coupled with the uncertainty of the lead shot phase out who’s going to want to buy a short chambered gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, ehb102 said: Wasn't it not law but guidance that said plus nine guns requires extra security? In the home office guidelines it says excessive amount or in a high crime areas 6 here requires additional security hope you’re well 😊👍sad that AGL will not be able to have the SS competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeet Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 19 hours ago, mossy835 said: avon and somerset, will let you hold 5 guns, if you have an alarm you can have more,i hold 5 guns, and i dont want to rock the boat.i was told that by my old feo, years ago. A&S have said nothing to me about alarms for more than 6 guns and I own more than 12 including section 5 pistols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 19 hours ago, Gu5 said: If you have more than 1 certificate holder in your house are you allowed more or is it 5 per household? AVS - I think its 5 per home , any more, they ask you to have an alarm on the house. I dont think its that bad a request, okay house alarms aren't always that great as people ignore them due to going off randomly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, yeet said: A&S have said nothing to me about alarms for more than 6 guns and I own more than 12 including section 5 pistols so you have got away with it.my mate had 6 guns and they were on to him.he had to get rid of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 16 hours ago, ehb102 said: Wasn't it not law but guidance that said plus nine guns requires extra security? It's all guidance. The HO make up the "rules", the Police decide which to follow, with a push from organisations like ACPO, NPCC etc. The actual law is pretty forgiving and gives us much more freedom than we currently receive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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