Walker570 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) With the shutting down of most driven shooting days many shoots are struggling but some are coming up with ideas and days. I just had information from Wrekin Sporting that they are offering, within the regulations days for one or two guns , walked shooting. May be worth contacting them if you want a bit of sport before the season ends. Ideal for anyone with gsps or vIzslas. Edited January 9, 2021 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 I thought no one could travel outside their immediate location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, Scully said: I thought no one could travel outside their immediate location? Which is what in time or distance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, 8 shot said: Which is what in time or distance ? Exactly. It all depends on your local rozzers, which can’t be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 and yet the government now say you can go fishing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrenp Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 You can only go fishing in your local district ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Scully said: Exactly. It all depends on your local rozzers, which can’t be right. This is the main reason I will not be going to my permissions. ( 1/2 hr trip ) for the time being. I believe I could give good reason for going but no clear "guidelines" that I could debate with a policeman who is giving his own interpretation of the rules, especially with a potential heavy fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, Good shot? said: This is the main reason I will not be going to my permissions. ( 1/2 hr trip ) for the time being. I believe I could give good reason for going but no clear "guidelines" that I could debate with a policeman who is giving his own interpretation of the rules, especially with a potential heavy fine for me. Most of my permissions are in walking distance but this is the BASC guidance. For pest control the “stay local” rule doesn’t apply. Shooting-related essential work is permitted in England and it is reasonable to travel outside your local area to carry out that essential work. This includes essential bird and mammal pest control to protect crops or livestock such as the shooting and trapping of pest bird species under general licence; the management of rodents and rabbits; deer management as part of a plan agreed with and requested by the landowner. It is advised that you keep a copy of your shooting permission and a written request to undertake essential work with you so that you can present them if challenged by the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 AVB is correct. In Germany they have given a specific distance for ‘stay local’ , it would be helpful if the UK government did likewise. Ireland also has a 5km limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, AVB said: Shooting-related essential work is permitted in England and it is reasonable to travel outside your local area to carry out that essential work. This includes essential bird and mammal pest control to protect crops or livestock such as the shooting and trapping of pest bird species under general licence; the management of rodents and rabbits; deer management as part of a plan agreed with and requested by the landowner. It is advised that you keep a copy of your shooting permission and a written request to undertake essential work with you so that you can present them if challenged by the authorities. And all of that means nothing since BASC stopped the legal cover. Will BASC fight your case in court, if the police decide otherwise and revoke your certs. Or will it be the more likely scenario of - BASC will give you advice for fighting the revocation, but you are on your own legally. I'm not having a dig at you, mearly pointing out that although BASC are advising it's legal to do pest control (which is my interpretation of the rules, even in the first lockdown), you will be on your own in court. Edited January 10, 2021 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Shooting pheasants on a walked up day is not essential at these times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I did hear yesterday that two women I believe got fined £200 for traveling five miles to a walk in Derbyshire ? Maybe a local from that area will know and give us more details. I know that two people here in Norfolk got fined for traveling from North Hampton to come and look at the Seals at Horsey . There was also talk of with the virus now getting well out of control that even more restrictions will be imposed , so paying and driving some distance to shoot walked up game might be crossing the borderline . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Good shot? said: This is the main reason I will not be going to my permissions. ( 1/2 hr trip ) for the time being. I believe I could give good reason for going but no clear "guidelines" that I could debate with a policeman who is giving his own interpretation of the rules, especially with a potential heavy fine for me. This is what im thinking I did speak with the local feo and they have had nothing to go on, so it would be up to us the shooter to prove we are acting within the guidelines o he lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, marsh man said: I did hear yesterday that two women I believe got fined £200 for traveling five miles to a walk in Derbyshire ? That has been all over the news, they drove in separate cars to a res for a walk. Police then approached them saying they'd broken rules and taking a drink with them counted as a picnic... Utter madness to fine someone for going for a walk 5miles down road. Some people would have to travel that to get out of an inner city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Why cant you walk within an inner-city you don't need to travel to walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: Why cant you walk within an inner-city you don't need to travel to walk Which is more likely to spread the virus: A. Driving alone in a car and then walking in a remote rural location? B. Walking around an inner-city area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, McSpredder said: Which is more likely to spread the virus: A. Driving alone in a car and then walking in a remote rural location? B. Walking around an inner-city area? A Have you heard of social distance don't need to spread the virus by walking in an inner city B By driving in a car you may need the police / fire Service/ ambulance doctors/nurses they don't need any more pressure than they got this is why we wont beat this virus not ESSENTIAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: This is what im thinking I did speak with the local feo and they have had nothing to go on, so it would be up to us the shooter to prove we are acting within the guidelines o he lockdown This is where it falls into the laps of the antis. You are either providing an essential service, controlling pests for a farmer (in which case you would travel) or you are doing it for fun (in which case you wouldn’t). under the terms of the GL it has to be the former so you should travel surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, marsh man said: I did hear yesterday that two women I believe got fined £200 for traveling five miles to a walk in Derbyshire Yep and for having a picnic as they had a cup of coffee - Police now reviewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I watched a person vaping some 200 yards from me the other day (I too vape) the vapour around him spread much more than 2 metres around him and trailed several meters behind him. This is what happens when anyone exhales in particular cyclists and joggers let alone other pedestrians I feel being pulled up and quizzed by the Police to be more of a health hazard than my driving to any permission to shoot or anything else for that matter would create, but would still be safer than going for a walk locally and passing umpteen walkers joggers and cyclists. Don't confused the two metre rule with being safe, it is only safer than a one metre rule, perhaps. I am sure someone will give an opposing view but that is the problem. PS. My wife and myself are and have done everything and more asked of us during this period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Yep and for having a picnic as they had a cup of coffee - Police now reviewing The head policeman had apparently said each Officer will use his own judgement! Well that didn't work then, did it? I wonder if some opportunistic lawyer might take this case on pro bono in order to get some fame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, marsh man said: I did hear yesterday that two women I believe got fined £200 for traveling five miles to a walk in Derbyshire ? Maybe a local from that area will know and give us more details. I know that two people here in Norfolk got fined for traveling from North Hampton to come and look at the Seals at Horsey . There was also talk of with the virus now getting well out of control that even more restrictions will be imposed , so paying and driving some distance to shoot walked up game might be crossing the borderline . They were quite photogenic and so it received a lot of press attention as an easy article and click bait pictures. Unfortunately if I were fined with my shooting buddy we probably wouldn’t make such a splash? To avoid blow back and negative press perhaps the police should learn to use their initiative and only fine ugly people or people with low social capital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Newbie to this said: And all of that means nothing since BASC stopped the legal cover. Will BASC fight your case in court, if the police decide otherwise and revoke your certs. Or will it be the more likely scenario of - BASC will give you advice for fighting the revocation, but you are on your own legally. I'm not having a dig at you, mearly pointing out that although BASC are advising it's legal to do pest control (which is my interpretation of the rules, even in the first lockdown), you will be on your own in court. CPSA still do offer legal cover for revocation. Legal expenses insurance for shotgun certificate revocation and renewal issues (excluding colts and clubman) with effect from 1st April 2014. And also their cover isn't just for clay target shooting it covers live quarry shooting also including deerstalking, game, vermin. https://www.cpsa.co.uk/insuredactivities And if over age 60 is £62 instead of the usual £72 per year. BASC is £82 and their senior membership rate of £71 is if you are over age 65. Do the maths. Age over sixty years and you are saving £20 a year AND get that legal insurance that BASC doesn't now include. Edited January 10, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Good shot? said: watched a person vaping some 200 yards from me the other day (I too vape) the vapour around him spread much more than 2 metres around him and trailed several meters behind him. This is what happens when anyone exhales in particular cyclists and joggers let alone other pedestrians A scientist on tv the other day used the same analogy. When asked about masks and how far people's "air borne exhalations could travel" he replied; watch someone vaping/smoking and if you can smell it you've breathed it quite sobering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: They were quite photogenic and so it received a lot of press attention as an easy article and click bait pictures. Unfortunately if I were fined with my shooting buddy we probably wouldn’t make such a splash? To avoid blow back and negative press perhaps the police should learn to use their initiative and only fine ugly people or people with low social capital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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