Rim Fire Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/migrants-who-enter-britain-by-dinghy-to-be-deported-under-new-law-q9dfjzd2j#:~:text=Migrants who enter,Priti Patel%2C the According to this it is not illegal to come in dinghies but will be with the new laws being introduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, bostonmick said: I do wonder when all those who believe we should just keep taking all and sundry in will finally say this tiny island is full. Its a world problem, vast numbers of people in the poorest parts of the world aspire to a better life in the richest countries. Its not going to just stop happening, The world population is set to just keep on growing and growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/migrants-who-enter-britain-by-dinghy-to-be-deported-under-new-law-q9dfjzd2j#:~:text=Migrants who enter,Priti Patel%2C the According to this it is not illegal to come in dinghies but will be with the new laws being introduced Good news but I bet the human rights lawyers will be waiting on the beaches, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The world population is set to just keep on growing and growing which is of course the REAL problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: which is of course the REAL problem. Certainly its one of the root causes but the internet is another, it tells people how to go about getting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Certainly its one of the root causes but the internet is another, it tells people how to go about getting here. All the internet tells me is that for 60 years I have been using the wrong chokes, shot size, type of gun and the wrong colour cartridges so I cannot possibly be hitting anything so I must have imagined it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, London Best said: All the internet tells me is that for 60 years I have been using the wrong chokes, shot size, type of gun and the wrong colour cartridges so I cannot possibly be hitting anything so I must have imagined it all! 🤣🤣🤣 There is a serious point beneath your humour though. One it is hard to disagree with. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Rim Fire said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/migrants-who-enter-britain-by-dinghy-to-be-deported-under-new-law-q9dfjzd2j#:~:text=Migrants who enter,Priti Patel%2C the According to this it is not illegal to come in dinghies but will be with the new laws being introduced Like this will ever happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Its a world problem, vast numbers of people in the poorest parts of the world aspire to a better life in the richest countries. Its not going to just stop happening, The world population is set to just keep on growing and growing Maybe but it does not mean that the west has to home the rest of the world.a lot of these so called poor countries would not be so if they did not have such a liking for war and some of their barbaric religious rules.the west is richer largely due to capitalism maybe they should try it. 34 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Good news but I bet the human rights lawyers will be waiting on the beaches, Yes and our legal aid paymasters alongside them to fund it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Looking at the longer term i do worry at just what this and other western countries will be like to live in.thankfully i will be in the ground but i worry for my grandchildren and great grandchildren.i believe that climate change will be the least worry once the loony left have total control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, bostonmick said: Looking at the longer term i do worry at just what this and other western countries will be like to live in.thankfully i will be in the ground but i worry for my grandchildren and great grandchildren.i believe that climate change will be the least worry once the loony left have total control Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 hours ago, bostonmick said: Like this will ever happen Agreed , will be mired for years in the courts, Lawyers growing ever more voracious at the expense of the public purse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 7 hours ago, bostonmick said: Maybe but it does not mean that the west has to home the rest of the world.a lot of these so called poor countries would not be so if they did not have such a liking for war and some of their barbaric religious rules.the west is richer largely due to capitalism maybe they should try it. Yes and our legal aid paymasters alongside them to fund it. The pressure will get more and more. Look what is happening at the Mexican border at the moment. These people are not going to shrug their shoulders and go back home. Same on the borders of Belarus. I don't know what the answer is, trouble is neither do the politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 59 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The pressure will get more and more. Look what is happening at the Mexican border at the moment. These people are not going to shrug their shoulders and go back home. Same on the borders of Belarus. I don't know what the answer is, trouble is neither do the politicians It's simple, send them drop them straight back, we're an island, it really isn't that hard, Australia has already proved this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: It's simple, send them drop them straight back, we're an island, it really isn't that hard, Australia has already proved this. We can't send them back because france wont take them back. Its Macron and his cronies playing silly games. If they had half a brain the French would realise that if we returned them every time eventually the message would sink in and people would stop coming to Calais to try and get across. The camps would empty and both sides would be better off eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: We can't send them back because france wont take them back. Its Macron and his cronies playing silly games. If they had half a brain the French would realise that if we returned them every time eventually the message would sink in and people would stop coming to Calais to try and get across. The camps would empty and both sides would be better off eventually. We just do it. If we can't trust the French not to allow people to illegally cross our border we do it for them. What would they do, go to war over it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: It's simple, send them drop them straight back, we're an island, it really isn't that hard, Australia has already proved this. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Vince Green said: We can't send them back because france wont take them back. Its Macron and his cronies playing silly games. If they had half a brain the French would realise that if we returned them every time eventually the message would sink in and people would stop coming to Calais to try and get across. The camps would empty and both sides would be better off eventually. this is what drones were made for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Anybody gullible enough to think Gendarmes don't see dinghies being transported or carried to a beach is living in cloud cuckoo land. Its so obvious to them not wearing blinkers that the French are not only turning a blind eye but very likely in deep deep collusion with so called smugglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 News coming through it seems that the french fishing boats have all been granted licenses now after the british authorities pulled out all the stops to help.in other words bent over and asked macron how deep would he like to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, bostonmick said: News coming through it seems that the french fishing boats have all been granted licenses now after the british authorities pulled out all the stops to help.in other words bent over and asked macron how deep would he like to go. Time for a different party. Tories and Labour virtually the same now, its getting hard to see where the blue starts and the red ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bostonmick said: News coming through it seems that the french fishing boats have all been granted licenses now after the british authorities pulled out all the stops to help.in other words bent over and asked macron how deep would he like to go. Hopefully a mutual back scratching exercise that gets the French to effectively stop the dinghies - or allow migrant returns. Edited December 11, 2021 by Dave-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 So much for Boris being like a modern Churchill. How did it go again "we'll welcome them on the beaches"? 1 minute ago, Dave-G said: Hopefully a mutual back scratching exercise that gets the French to effectively stop the dinghies They won't do that even if that was the deal. They'd simply take their permits and carry on sending them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 33 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Hopefully a mutual back scratching exercise that gets the French to effectively stop the dinghies - or allow migrant returns. Yes we can all dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Hopefully the fisheries protection boats will harass the French boats, checking permits, catches etc, and for illegal immigrants. Then the fishermen will harass their government to "do something". one can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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