Harnser Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Browning B325 12 bore sporter . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Harnser said: Browning B325 12 bore sporter . harnser Baikal for sure, you can shoot your game or beat it to death with the butt without feeling bad about the damage 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Browning B2G Any of the Beretta 680 series. Perazzi MX12 Most of the older Mirokus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Maybe for you. While I owned one and shot well with it, and admittedly it was a great gun, I would say the best all round shotgun out there is the one you shoot best with, all round. Make, configuration, action type, bore are all irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, Scully said: Maybe for you. While I owned one and shot well with it, and admittedly it was a great gun, I would say the best all round shotgun out there is the one you shoot best with, all round. Make, configuration, action type, bore are all irrelevant. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Scully said: Maybe for you. While I owned one and shot well with it, and admittedly it was a great gun, I would say the best all round shotgun out there is the one you shoot best with, all round. Make, configuration, action type, bore are all irrelevant. +1 and fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Scully said: Maybe for you. While I owned one and shot well with it, and admittedly it was a great gun, I would say the best all round shotgun out there is the one you shoot best with, all round. Make, configuration, action type, bore are all irrelevant. Perfectly said Scully 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 I only shoot clays and have had about 20 guns over 40 years. My trouble was i was more interested in the wood of the gun on some of them i have had than the actual fit. I've had Brownings, Mirokus, Winchesters Beretta's and am now shooting a Beretta 687 SP 3 30 " sporter and it is the most comfortable and best fitting gun i have ever had. It will be a keeper. I did put a post up the other week saying i would a nice upmarket gun but i am happy with the Beretta. Funny thing is i have had my CZ .22 Rimfire for 16 years and cant see me changing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 I love the B325, but it would fall down today for its inability to take high pressure steel. A perfect all round gun for me would need a 3" chamber and superior steel proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, theshootist said: I love the B325, but it would fall down today for its inability to take high pressure steel. A perfect all round gun for me would need a 3" chamber and superior steel proof. Lovely gun - Oppo has had Harnser's version for at least 25 years. It's in regular use, has performed faultlessly and looks as though it'll do another 25 with ease. All you need to get the spec that you also want is a Chapuis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, wymberley said: Lovely gun - Oppo has had Harnser's version for at least 25 years. It's in regular use, has performed faultlessly and looks as though it'll do another 25 with ease. All you need to get the spec that you also want is a Chapuis. I've had a 325 since 1992 and I've only once had to take it apart to de-gum the bottom striker. It's had a lot of shells though it and done it all. I got a friend into them and he's since bought two grade 5s and a grade 6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, theshootist said: I love the B325, but it would fall down today for its inability to take high pressure steel. A perfect all round gun for me would need a 3" chamber and superior steel proof. It will be more than capable of handling HP steel shot. I’ve put the stuff through much older guns than was my 325. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, wymberley said: Lovely gun - Oppo has had Harnser's version for at least 25 years. It's in regular use, has performed faultlessly and looks as though it'll do another 25 with ease. All you need to get the spec that you also want is a Chapuis. Mine was bought new in 1984 and is still mint and has been faultless. I think the 325 was the replacement the supperposed hand made guns . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Nah, anything that's free or comes from a sponsor 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 The best gun is always the one you sold or the one you can’t afford to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 hours ago, theshootist said: A perfect all round gun for me would need a 3" chamber and superior steel proof. Completely unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 If its going to be my allround gun then it needs to be able to shoot large charges of large steel shot for wildfowling. So absolutely necessary for me if it's going to do everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, theshootist said: If its going to be my allround gun then it needs to be able to shoot large charges of large steel shot for wildfowling. So absolutely necessary for me if it's going to do everything. I have made the point many times over the years that a gun doesn't necessarily need a fleur de lis in order to be fine with "HP" steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, London Best said: Completely unnecessary. I think you need to tell the makers. The way things are going The Shootist is going to be on a winner and his choice will turn out to be Hobson’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Strange. Since we went lead-free for ducks and geese lots and lots have given theirselves up for me with 32 gram steel 4’s. But I will admit to using 36 gram lead 1’s for Spur-Wing geese in Africa because that is what was supplied. Seemed to work most effectively through my true cyl and quarter barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, motty said: I have made the point many times over the years that a gun doesn't necessarily need a fleur de lis in order to be fine with "HP" steel. Correct Motty you have I’ve also pointed out on previous posts my aya no3 magnum will take 3 inch HP Steel with no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 I am not sure if there is a perfect gun that will be a master for all types of shooting , although if there was I doubt , well not doubt, I know I couldn't afford one if there was , to me they are work horses rather than a thing of beauty , not so much now but I used to wallow in the mud , down the side of dykes and in a gun punt and the poor gun would go through it all and rarely if ever let me down , like us , as they get older the joints begin to creek and the odd screw come loose , this is when they have a dignified retirement before they end up in the melting pot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 out of a cabinet of guns and investments my go to is a cheap 28 bore as my body wont let me carry my pride and joys however i load my own on pheasant 19g load i have never felt under gunned and wiped an eye or two i have every faith in the 28 bore just got to work up a non toxic load Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 The answer will be different as we all have different uses. For example, I have no use for heavy wildfowl charges. What I need is a reasonably light game gun, to shoot smallish (maybe 5 to 10 birds a gun) days, a bit of walked up and a few 'for fun' clays. No competitive stuff. What I think it would be (and why) would be; Probably s/s, 28" barrels, weighing about 6 3/4 to 7 lbs (because that seems to suit me) 12 bore (wide load availability, cheap(er) to run), 2 3/4 chambered, choked prob Imp and 1/4 (allows for wide choice of loads inc std steel) Double trigger, straight hand stock, auto safety (because that's what I like and am used to) On make/model, sidelock or boxlock, ejector/non ejector - I'm not over fussy. All would do the job well. 2 3/4 chamber will mean not so many English choices, so might end up being Spanish, Italian depending on budget etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 All good points but the the old saying “Beware the man with one gun “Think now there’s too much options a old boy I used to wildfowl with used a Browning 425 for everything from ducks to clays The gun fitted him like a glove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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