scobydog Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 All Oligarchs property should be seized, all the cash too,@ 750 billion in European banks from what I've heard and use it all to re home and feed Ukrainian refugees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: And would whoever replaces him be any better? It worked out well removing Saddam? 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: NATO countries will ONLY protect other NATO countries! Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO. Neither are Sweden or Finland but agreements get made, and lots of NATO countries are supplying the Ukraine. But yes I know that they aren't a member. 1 hour ago, Weihrauch17 said: We need to hope he is removed ASAP, I can't believe anyone other than him wants this absolutely pointless insanity. The problem is he's done it twice already with no consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hello, 40 miles of tanks , artillery , trucks and solders sounds a frightening prospect for Ukraine ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, 40 miles of tanks , artillery , trucks and solders sounds a frightening prospect for Ukraine ?? Dosent look good any idea what range a tank has when fully fueled up ? they could be on a one way trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, 40 miles of tanks , artillery , trucks and solders sounds a frightening prospect for Ukraine ?? Need to find a way of slowing that down somehow or blocking the route in.. a 40mile long convoy is insane and is pretty much a death squad intent on eradicating Kyiv of everything and everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 They’re breaking down and doing a pretty good job of delaying their own progress apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Dosent look good any idea what range a tank has when fully fueled up ? they could be on a one way trip 200 miles on road 250 with external tanks fitted, but it uses 240 gallons internal 160 gallons with external tanks, so you need a lot of fuel to replen.That's for a T80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 BBC news coverage, pathetic, there was a special news feature yesterday about the war. It was 52 minutes into the program before they even touched on the current military situation! Before that it was all ‘human interest’, refugees at border crossings, footage of man carrying a dog onto a train, some politics. There used to be a time when a reporter would get to the front line, now they swan about railway stations in a flak jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, scolopax said: BBC news coverage, pathetic, there was a special news feature yesterday about the war. It was 52 minutes into the program before they even touched on the current military situation! Before that it was all ‘human interest’, refugees at border crossings, footage of man carrying a dog onto a train, some politics. There used to be a time when a reporter would get to the front line, now they swan about railway stations in a flak jacket. Last I saw they were in Kiev. Clive Myrie is a hero. What we need now is a few polish planes given to Ukraine to take out that convoy. Edited March 1, 2022 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, scobydog said: All Oligarchs property should be seized, all the cash too,@ 750 billion in European banks from what I've heard and use it all to re home and feed Ukrainian refugees. That’s a good point but a lot of Europe’s countries need the Oligarchs billions in There economy’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Gerry78 said: That’s a good point but a lot of Europe’s countries need the Oligarchs billions in There economy’s For what? Italy wants it for their boat industry maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, oowee said: Last I saw they were in Kiev. What we need now is a few polish planes given to Ukraine to take out that convoy. AFAIK the promise of Planes has been renaged on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, welsh1 said: 200 miles on road 250 with external tanks fitted, but it uses 240 gallons internal 160 gallons with external tanks, so you need a lot of fuel to replen.That's for a T80 That’s a lot of fuel tankers to service a 40 mile convoy im thinking that they should target the tankers not the tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 17 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: One thing I noticed about this war is its seems that the Russian troops are scared to kill. I have seen hundreds of videos of armor getting fire bombed and not firing back, videos of of chordal talking back and forth, people standing in front of armor and the armor going out of their way to miss them, I even saw a video of Russians firing up in the air as a group was throwing bricks at them. With the Ukrainian civilians walking up and interacting with the Russains I feel like Russians are not talking it seriously. I’ve seen some of that footage myself but putin is not stupid all the front troops attacking Ukraine are 80% conscripts according to a military specialist on CNN he’s holding back special forces and paratroopers As well as a lot of he’s airforce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: AFAIK the promise of Planes has been renaged on. https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-pilots-arrive-poland-pick-231621686.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, oowee said: For what? Italy wants it for their boat industry maybe? Buying property for one which benefits the economy Not to mention sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, welsh1 said: 200 miles on road 250 with external tanks fitted, but it uses 240 gallons internal 160 gallons with external tanks, so you need a lot of fuel to replen.That's for a T80 Hello, the supply fuel must be in all the lorries, ?? If the Ukrainian army could take out those ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, the supply fuel must be in all the lorries, ?? If the Ukrainian army could take out those ?? Surely the road is mined heavily? Edited March 1, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, the supply fuel must be in all the lorries, ?? If the Ukrainian army could take out those ?? The furthur Russia advances the longer the supply line, and that is where he could come unstuck, does he have enough logistics to support his front line? a tank is just a very large paperweight without fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Maybe one or two of those he has locked up in some distant Siberian jail. Cannot include any of those he has poisoned. There are many good people in Russia. It is down to the fact that the ruling factions have crawled out of the sewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Walker570 said: There are many good people in Russia. It is down to the fact that the ruling factions have crawled out of the sewer. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, welsh1 said: The furthur Russia advances the longer the supply line, and that is where he could come unstuck, does he have enough logistics to support his front line? a tank is just a very large paperweight without fuel. Can they not still fire there main gun though? That's still a lot of fire power even if they run out of fuel. 21 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Surely the road is mined heavily? Doubt they had time? 24 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, the supply fuel must be in all the lorries, ?? If the Ukrainian army could take out those ?? Probably infantry to support the tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mice! said: Can they not still fire there main gun though? That's still a lot of fire power even if they run out of fuel. They only have so many rounds and ammunition, sitting still they are lame ducks unless dug in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Some useful insight here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, welsh1 said: They only have so many rounds and ammunition, sitting still they are lame ducks unless dug in. Yes I realise that they wouldn't want to be sat still, but it's not like the Gulf where we had footage of constant air strikes on tanks. I've seen a few drone strikes on the armour, but they'll need a lot more to stop everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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