old man Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, derbyduck said: Yes I know that, but if the RNLI keep away from them they would have to find their own way and that would be a different ball game! The RNLI was set to protect those in peril , Not to drag the dross of eastern Europe and northern Africa across the Chanel ,to where they will cost the UK millions a day ! I'm sure they are and will lose over their actions? 5 hours ago, Mice! said: We should welcome it, let it be known we have had enough, France is a far larger country, if they are coming from France then put them back there, they shouldn't touch land on our side of the channel. France has been a major problem for us for hundreds of years? They will only ever do what is good for them despite making conciliatory noises? Our actions and losses over them in WW2 have long been forgotten,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Revoke French Fishing licences until it is resolved, the French Trawlers would sort it in a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 21 hours ago, oowee said: So what would you all do about it? What's you proposal? Think it through. ok more to the point, Lets hear what You would Do about it ? or will you answer with another question again asusual ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 42 minutes ago, oowee said: Global warming will make these numbers look like a trickle. Maybe so, but thats all the more reason to tackle illegal immigration now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, old'un said: Just looked at some figures and its gone from 6k 2019/20 to 35k so far this year 2022, and thats just the ones coming here by boat, the infrastructure in the UK cannot handle this number. That is a serious increase in numbers. 1 hour ago, Weihrauch17 said: Revoke French Fishing licences until it is resolved, the French Trawlers would sort it in a day. That's probably a very good idea. 1 hour ago, old man said: France has been a major problem for us for hundreds of years? They will only ever do what is good for them despite making conciliatory noises? Our actions and losses over them in WW2 have long been forgotten,? Totally agree, that's why I think we should post the Navy and finally stop them arriving, why we allow the French to get away with this I really don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, derbyduck said: ok more to the point, Lets hear what You would Do about it ? or will you answer with another question again asusual ? Posted a plan earlier. It starts with funding a propper border force. Corroboration support for detailed investigation. Setting out clear rules who can come, having decent arrival facilities. A well funded reception facility in Northern France. Genuine refugees won't need to cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Quote Posted a plan earlier. It starts with funding a propper border force. Corroboration support for detailed investigation. Setting out clear rules who can come, having decent arrival facilities. A well funded reception facility in Northern France. Genuine refugees won't need to cross. How will the properly funded Border Force work any differently to now? You can set up centres in France, but how would this affect illegals? If they went to the centre, found they didn't qualify, they would then get into a dinghy. Edited October 29, 2022 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 it just seems strange ...that with all the specialist secrete services availble in uk and eu......they cant hunt down the suppliers of the boats and motors and dealers and lock em up END OF......... dont smell right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, ditchman said: it just seems strange ...that with all the specialist secrete services availble in uk and eu......they cant hunt down the suppliers of the boats and motors and dealers and lock em up END OF......... dont smell right This. I read that the boats are made in Turkey, and transported over. Plenty of time to intercept and apparently a large gang was caught but it seems to make no difference. Sitting on boat in Brixham now. I hope no one is trying to cross tonight / tomorrow its already f4 and on its way to f7 in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, ditchman said: it just seems strange ...that with all the specialist secrete services availble in uk and eu......they cant hunt down the suppliers of the boats and motors and dealers and lock em up END OF......... dont smell right You can't lock someone up for selling a boat, but I'm sure they could stop production, permanently. Problem is just how many boats and engines are there, its every day!! There has to be several suppliers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 10 hours ago, oowee said: Posted a plan earlier. It starts with funding a propper border force. Corroboration support for detailed investigation. Setting out clear rules who can come, having decent arrival facilities. A well funded reception facility in Northern France. Genuine refugees won't need to cross. Mm, nice idea but how does that prevent the economic migration by rubber boat? That may need more cojones than can currently be found? It begs the question, following money as to who benefits apart from the traffickers? Any other country apart from ours would have woken up and acted years ago, why not us? Who's gaining? Sadly not much point of expecting anything from the parasites that run this country. 10 hours ago, ditchman said: it just seems strange ...that with all the specialist secrete services availble in uk and eu......they cant hunt down the suppliers of the boats and motors and dealers and lock em up END OF......... dont smell right They are probably on first name terms with the entire supply chain, maybe even getting kickbacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 10 hours ago, oowee said: Sitting on boat in Brixham now. I hope no one is trying to cross tonight / tomorrow its already f4 and on its way to f7 in the morning. ? Stugeron ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bobba said: ? Stugeron ? In the marina doing soft furnishings 😁 44 minutes ago, old man said: Mm, nice idea but how does that prevent the economic migration by rubber boat? That may need more cojones than can currently be found? It begs the question, following money as to who benefits apart from the traffickers? Assuming half of travelers are genuine. Then 50% loss of business straight away. Rest arriving by boat as an example get put straight into holding facilities which are properly staffed for processing. Half the problem is there are simply not enough resources engaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 19 hours ago, Mice! said: We should welcome it, let it be known we have had enough, France is a far larger country, if they are coming from France then put them back there, they shouldn't touch land on our side of the channel. Here here, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Turn them around and point them back to France, if they jump in the water - well that's their choice. The RNLI should be footing the bill for every immigrant they bring ashore, that might stop them doing it so reliably. Put HMS Queen Elizabeth in the channel right on the border, see what froggie has to say about that, we are being invaded - how differently we reacted when France was invaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 send them on to America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 47 minutes ago, oowee said: In the marina doing soft furnishings 😁 Assuming half of travelers are genuine. Then 50% loss of business straight away. Rest arriving by boat as an example get put straight into holding facilities which are properly staffed for processing. Half the problem is there are simply not enough resources engaged. assuming half of travllers are genuine is stretching my imagination way too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 16 hours ago, oowee said: Global warming will make these numbers look like a trickle. Well if it gets that bad the sea will evaporate and they can walk across. Some time back they predicted we were heading for a mini ice-age, so we cant win either way, sea evaporates they can walk across, sea freezes over they can walk across. Mind you if that happens we could do a Trump and build a wall/fence…...now there's a thought, I feel another cunning plan coming on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 15 hours ago, oowee said: Posted a plan earlier. It starts with funding a propper border force. Corroboration support for detailed investigation. Setting out clear rules who can come, having decent arrival facilities. A well funded reception facility in Northern France. Genuine refugees won't need to cross. that's ok ,a bit like building a wall to stop them getting to the beach , if they don't have a ladder to get over it they can walk round the ends . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 19 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: Revoke French Fishing licences until it is resolved, the French Trawlers would sort it in a day. Then they do what? Blockade the ferry terminals? The illegals will still come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Mice! said: You can't lock someone up for selling a boat, but I'm sure they could stop production, permanently. Problem is just how many boats and engines are there, its every day!! There has to be several suppliers For what it’s costing us it would be cheaper to buy the factory making the boats engines and close it far cheaper solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Old farrier said: For what it’s costing us it would be cheaper to buy the factory making the boats engines and close it far cheaper solution I was thinking of something far more sinister, because there's bound to be several places, but yes, the money that's being spent could easily cover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 some wag has thrown a few molotoff cocktails at a reception centre in Dover..........that should focus the mind of suella !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: .that should focus the mind of suella !! I suspect she has an answer the way "the left lovies", MSM, and woke are trying to get her out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, ditchman said: some wag has thrown a few molotoff cocktails at a reception centre in Dover..........that should focus the mind of suella !! A dead 'wag ' by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, oowee said: A dead 'wag ' by all accounts. ooohhh didnt hear that bit......do tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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