old'un Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, henry d said: She entered the river, as yet no one seems to know where, was it above the weir, or below? Well according to the police she went in the river near the bench but the wild swimmers say you can stand up there as the water is only a couple of feet deep, I know you can drown in a couple of inches of water but there is something just not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, old'un said: Well according to the police she went in the river near the bench but the wild swimmers say you can stand up there as the water is only a couple of feet deep, I know you can drown in a couple of inches of water but there is something just not right. This I am adamant she was put in the river after her death, she would have been found if that was not the case yet the inept Police refuse to accept the possibility and want her in the ground ASAP. Edited February 27, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 10 hours ago, old'un said: Well according to the police she went in the river near the bench but the wild swimmers say you can stand up there as the water is only a couple of feet deep, I know you can drown in a couple of inches of water but there is something just not right. It really doesn't matter where she went in, all of us putting forward theories is all about setting it right in our minds. The main thing is how she met her death, if by the hands of another or by her own then the scientists are the ones to ascertain this. The police cannot say that she walked undetected to the weir and went in there as there is no evidence of that, the only things they have is a phone, the dog and harness near the bench so have to assume that was point of entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, henry d said: It really doesn't matter where she went in, all of us putting forward theories is all about setting it right in our minds. The main thing is how she met her death, if by the hands of another or by her own then the scientists are the ones to ascertain this. The police cannot say that she walked undetected to the weir and went in there as there is no evidence of that, the only things they have is a phone, the dog and harness near the bench so have to assume that was point of entry. I think that's what I said in my reply to your “was it above the weir, or below?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 Hello, I do not think we will ever really know the true circumstances of her disappearance and sadly death but at least the family can move on to the funeral and grieve the loss of a partner, mother, and friend, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 we have ANOTHER search going on now ...looking for a dead baby belonging to the eloped couple ..... im sure the sound bights will be handled differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, ditchman said: we have ANOTHER search going on now ...looking for a dead baby belonging to the eloped couple ..... im sure the sound bights will be handled differently Yes, an odd one, this. Sadly I don't hope much hope for the baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 4 hours ago, ditchman said: we have ANOTHER search going on now ...looking for a dead baby belonging to the eloped couple ..... im sure the sound bights will be handled differently Please, ***. is a sound bight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Penelope said: Yes, an odd one, this. Sadly I don't hope much hope for the baby. Unfortunately its not looking good hope you are wrong but i wont hold my breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, London Best said: Please, ***. is a sound bight? PTC=Piece to camera Sound Bite=short interview sorry its all "media speak" sound bites are very much political dynamite as they are usually taken out of context and cropped and added with other "bites" to produce something that is almost totally fake....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, ditchman said: PTC=Piece to camera Sound Bite=short interview sorry its all "media speak" sound bites are very much political dynamite as they are usually taken out of context and cropped and added with other "bites" to produce something that is almost totally fake....... Thank you. New one on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 hours ago, ditchman said: we have ANOTHER search going on now ...looking for a dead baby belonging to the eloped couple ..... im sure the sound bights will be handled differently Something doesn't seem right with this. The couple have gone on the run seemingly because they knew their baby was going to be removed from them, why would they then neglect their baby and allow it to die. Could the please have charged them with manslaughter by neglect in an attempt to get them to reveal where their baby is, particularly if the man has criminal contacts they have paid to look after the child ect? Either way, a odd case. I just very much hope the baby is found safe and well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Could the police have charged them with manslaughter by neglect Did they charge the McCanns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Did they charge the McCanns This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Did they charge the McCanns Something I hadn't thought of, but very true 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 Unfortunately, the remains of a baby have now been found. R.I.P little one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 On 28/02/2023 at 20:42, Newbie to this said: Did they charge the McCanns That was not in this Country though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 Poor little mite - RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 From the sounds of the report the police grabbed them without knowing if the baby was with them. If that is the case they may be partially culpable in the babies death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, discobob said: From the sounds of the report the police grabbed them without knowing if the baby was with them. If that is the case they may be partially culpable in the babies death. If they cared even a little they would have told the police straight away ,it’s the first thing normal parents would have done, can’t blame the police . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Awful story, if the parents are proved to be responsible, I hope they never see freedom again. Very strange case from start to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Westley said: That was not in this Country though ? I believe for certain crimes our law still has the power of prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 On 28/02/2023 at 20:33, 12gauge82 said: Something doesn't seem right with this. The couple have gone on the run seemingly because they knew their baby was going to be removed from them, why would they then neglect their baby and allow it to die. Could the please have charged them with manslaughter by neglect in an attempt to get them to reveal where their baby is, particularly if the man has criminal contacts they have paid to look after the child ect? Either way, a odd case. I just very much hope the baby is found safe and well. Babies born to addicts are addicted to the same subject (roughly). A partially-functioning addict can't cope with a baby, let alone an addicted baby going through withdrawal. That is why babies are removed at birth now. An addict who loves their baby thinks they can cope and runs away with the baby - but then they can't and it goes Trainspotting. Very sad all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 hours ago, holloway said: If they cared even a little they would have told the police straight away ,it’s the first thing normal parents would have done, can’t blame the police . The police knew they weren't in their right mind. It wasn't as if they thought they were wearing bomb vests and they had to disarm them immediately. Perhaps if they had held back they would have got to where they were going and that might have been where the baby was - or within metres rather than hundreds of metres.... Either way it is a tragedy 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 50 minutes ago, discobob said: The police knew they weren't in their right mind. It wasn't as if they thought they were wearing bomb vests and they had to disarm them immediately. Perhaps if they had held back they would have got to where they were going and that might have been where the baby was - or within metres rather than hundreds of metres.... Either way it is a tragedy 😞 Perhaps…… ,more questions than answers sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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